LOL......Geaux lay the bottle down before you post Burke. Your deduction is brilliant sir...brilliant...not
What I got out of this thread is base Paxton kits are not safe and seems like 75% of all the boosted blown Coyote threads I read here involve a paxton.........no fukin thanks glad I did not go that route . Look at shauns failures 2 out of 3 boosted failures involve paxton probably revving the piss out of it making big power. With a TVS you can make great power at safe rpms and makes for a very streetable setup on a stock motor. High RPM plus Big Power = Boom , won't be the last paxton thread we see with a blown up motor because they suck fukin ass below 4K so you have to revv it to fukin Jupiter to make good power . You Figure People Would Figure That shit Out After 5 Years On these motors and boosting them lord have frikin mercy. But its not a big deal according to some people and im just an idiot that got all that from reading on the internets
What I got out of this thread is base Paxton kits are not safe and seems like 75% of all the boosted blown Coyote threads I read here involve a paxton.........no fukin thanks glad I did not go that route . Look at shauns failures 2 out of 3 boosted failures involve paxton probably revving the piss out of it making big power. With a TVS you can make great power at safe rpms and makes for a very streetable setup on a stock motor. High RPM plus Big Power = Boom , won't be the last paxton thread we see with a blown up motor because they suck fukin ass below 4K so you have to revv it to fukin Jupiter to make good power . You Figure People Would Figure That shit Out After 5 Years On these motors and boosting them lord have frikin mercy. But its not a big deal according to some people and im just an idiot that got all that from reading on the internets
What I got out of this thread is base Paxton kits are not safe and seems like 75% of all the boosted blown Coyote threads I read here involve a paxton.........no fukin thanks glad I did not go that route . Look at shauns failures 2 out of 3 boosted failures involve paxton probably revving the piss out of it making big power. With a TVS you can make great power at safe rpms and makes for a very streetable setup on a stock motor. High RPM plus Big Power = Boom , won't be the last paxton thread we see with a blown up motor because they suck fukin ass below 4K so you have to revv it to fukin Jupiter to make good power . You Figure People Would Figure That shit Out After 5 Years On these motors and boosting them lord have frikin mercy. But its not a big deal according to some people and im just an idiot that got all that from reading on the internets
Wow, I guess he missed the threads about tvs cars windowing blocks last year. People blow stuff up when they push the limits wanting more and more power don't think it matters if it is a centri, tvs, or turbo.
What I got out of this thread is base Paxton kits are not safe and seems like 75% of all the boosted blown Coyote threads I read here involve a paxton.........no fukin thanks glad I did not go that route . Look at shauns failures 2 out of 3 boosted failures involve paxton probably revving the piss out of it making big power. With a TVS you can make great power at safe rpms and makes for a very streetable setup on a stock motor. High RPM plus Big Power = Boom , won't be the last paxton thread we see with a blown up motor because they suck fukin ass below 4K so you have to revv it to fukin Jupiter to make good power . You Figure People Would Figure That shit Out After 5 Years On these motors and boosting them lord have frikin mercy. But its not a big deal according to some people and im just an idiot that got all that from reading on the internets
Dumbest post of this thread right here.. lol.. Wow!
Since this supposed car we tuned that had an engine rebuilt at CCC has been brought up several times now in several threads to try to discredit me / Lund. I figured I would go ahead and give “our side” as there is always 2 sides, about the car in question.
• Flasher was shipped in May 2013 WITH tune base file loaded
• Customer did not contact us for remote tuning instructions (logging, etc) until August 11, 2013. So about 2.5 months after ordering everything..
• Lund responsed on the 12th first thing in the morning since the 11th was a Sunday.
• Lund provided datalogging instructions along with an updated calibration to use since they had made some updates since his original base tune was sent.
• At the same time customer was asked things like how is the MAF clocked and to veryify the clocking, and spark plugs and spark plug gap. Inquiry as to what fuel he was running since it was Cali, and that’s usually 91.
• The datalogging instructions specifically say only to do 2 LOGS – idle and neutral rev. Lund proceeds from there and provide instruction with each revision. This implies to do as Lund asks.. Once Lund feels that the tune is ready for WOT pulls whether it be on the dyno or street, we inform the customer. At this point car was not even close to wot pulls.
• Customer did not reply until Aug 14th saying that he has limited time due to his schedule, etc. but would verify Lund’s questions and get initial logs done. Again, initial logs
• Customers first set of logs were sent on August 24th – a Saturday. Lund Responded first thing on the 26th – a Monday. Lund again asked to verify the MAF clock again based on logs as the maf clocking appeared to be off. Customer stated he did have to reclock the MAF (which was already asked originally) because it was not where Lund wanted it placed. Car then needed to be re-logged with new initial base logs. He sent new logs on the 30th. At this point, this is the very first set of useable logs. A revision is sent, and instructions are provide to now do a 2nd log, which is another small idle log, and some light street driving. Instructions specifically say NO BOOST.
• Nothing else from customer until October 19th (a little over a month later) – saying that he had mechanical issues with the car (not tune related) that delayed him. He said “Since I was at a shop with a dyno (and they were doing pulls for cheap) I decided to get a quick dyno of my results to see where I was sitting. Looks like I'm getting about 559 rwhp and 487 ft/lbs.”
• Lund immediately replied that same day and said “The point of the process is I tell you when to go WOT. What if fueling didn't look right and it was lean? You already breeched that process and went wide open without being given any indication it was ok.
• Customers reply was “Jon, My apologies. Truth is I had forgotten about your warning since I had a few other issues with the car and it had been a while since I had read the email. I am glad my enthusiasm did not lead to disaster. I will make sure to honor the process from this point on. I do realize that it is the weekend and you will not be able to analyze the data until the work week. Again, let me know if you need more information. Thanks.”
• A revision was sent on October 20 with instructions to start making wot pulls to 5000-5500 and that’s it. Customer was never heard from again.
People can try to skew things anyway they want, just because you type it on the internet, doesn’t make it true. There is a logging process the customer is expected to follow and it simply wasn't done here. You have a car that's been out there for months that at some point had some sort of an unknown mechanical issue, and a tune calibrated for a certain maf clock, unlogged with who knows how many miles or wot hits on it. Then for several more months, without out any kind of a base log and on the dyno making wot hits.
Customer now has a built engine, and just purchased some fuel system upgrades this week and is still doing business with me. So that is "our side of the story" and I don't think anything more needs to be said.
Temptation, honest mistakes, bad install, etc have to be hard on a remote tune scenario. Add in internet rumor and drama when things do go wrong and it just gets ridiculous.
I'm not a tuner, but why isn't it possible to send base tunes and log tunes so super save at WOT...so in the event the stupid owner decides to get crazy on a tune that's in the base/log stages it won't smoke a motor?
Is that not possible? Like I said I'm not a tuner so I don't know...just asking.