Op, do you have pretty extensive marksmanship knowledge and are used to carrying?
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Mine came from the factory with hogue grips and tritium sits and I bought it at the gun show a couple years ago for around $700.I get that it takes some effort to shoot, but, I do not think it is too bad.
I enjoyed pumping 50 rounds through it and didn't feel like it took too much effort or out of me to do so.
I paid $675 plus tax for a brand new one locally.
Gunprodeals, Targetsportsusa, etc.
https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/category.cfm/sportsman/firearms/brand/SIG-SAUER/of3/9-MM
Also, check out gunbroker too. Can be had new for less than $650 plus a small shipping fee.
There is also a deal with sig now, where you get two mags and a bag if you buy a specific firearm, some exclusions.
Because if you forget the safety on and/or lack a proper grip (for the grip safety), you can die since it wont fire.Another thing that bears mentioning is if your are indeed carrying a 1911 for defense you need to be disciplined in handling it
I'm in this camp as well. I've shot 1911's and striker fire competitively. While I love the accuracy I find with my 1911's there is more for my old feeble brain to process. I only carry and compete with striker fired pistols with no manual safety now. That said, there are those who train with 1911's and are consistently "deadly" in a match.Because if you forget the safety on and/or lack a proper grip (for the grip safety), you can die since it wont fire.
Unlike a glock.
Jesus Christ, the firearms threads on this forum get stupid. OP, do yourself a favor and go to https://forums.1911forum.com/ or Brian Enos' forums and ask your questions there.Just tell the person that is forcing you to draw your weapon "Hey, timeout. I need to get the safety off on my concealed firearm."
If you're concealing, you should have it locked/loaded with the safety off. The holster prevents you from accidentally hitting the trigger unless the gun is withdrawn. Then again, you should also be indexing your finger to prevent an accidental discharge. If you cannot manage that, you either need more training or just stop carrying. Not meant as a negative comment, but, I've heard from various instructors that 1911's are easy to shoot and holster/draw from a holster.
Especially considering that most 1911's have a harder trigger pull, unless otherwise modified, compared to a striker fired pistol, such as a glock. So, it should be a bit more difficult for accidental discharge on 1911's vs a glock, M&P, etc.
If you're concealing, you should have it locked/loaded with the safety off.
Jesus Christ, the firearms threads on this forum get stupid.
1) 1911's don't have heavy triggers. Springfields ship in the 5-6 range, Kimbers are slightly lower in the 4-5 lb range. My colts were 6.6 and 7 out of the box (before break-in). Glocks ship with a 5.5 lb trigger. FNS-9, 7-8 lb, my SR-9 8 lbs (after break-in), M&P 6-7 lb. So yes, I will act as if what your saying isn't factually accurate.Are you going to ask the criminal for a moment to un-holster your firearm and disengage your safety so it is fair?
All encounters happen within 5 feet. Average person can cover 21 feet and get to you within 1.5 seconds. Are you both John Wayne or Bob Munden? Highly doubt that folks.
You're certainly entitled to your opinion. Every second matters in an encounter and when the panic sets in, and your firearm is on safety and you try to fire, good luck to you.
Again, unless you've TRAINED to the point where you can draw your firearm from your holster, disengage the safety and target the threat, you're probably not going to be able to react in time.
Some safety's are very easy to use. Some require more effort than others. This is personal preference and opinion, so, before you guys try to act as if this is a fact that the safety should always be on, note that this comes down to the user and how comfortable they are.
1) 1911's don't have heavy triggers. Springfields ship in the 5-6 range, Kimbers are slightly lower in the 4-5 lb range. My colts were 6.6 and 7 out of the box (before break-in). Glocks ship with a 5.5 lb trigger. FNS-9, 7-8 lb, my SR-9 8 lbs (after break-in), M&P 6-7 lb. So yes, I will act as if what your saying isn't factually accurate.
2) You're telling everyone that in a stress situation you might not disengage the safety but it goes against you as well, you may panic and shoot yourself in the leg. Pot, Kettle, Black. Get off your high horse.
I agree.Jesus Christ, the firearms threads on this forum get stupid. OP, do yourself a favor and go to https://forums.1911forum.com/ or Brian Enos' forums and ask your questions there.
Oh shit. Ex Millitary. That changes everything. I have a tip for you.....they all are. Either ex military, ex CIA, ex marine snipers, etc, etc, etc. Any time firearms are involved everyone's embellished credentials come out....and they usually suck.Haha.
Not on a high horse by any means. I'm fresh out of CCW training with my wife and the instructor is ex military, involved in about a dozen pistol leagues and competitions, and has been in situations where having a safety on could determine if you live or die.
I actually keep all of my ammo in my left pocket and the magazines empty on my belt. I train to load all 15 rounds, pop that sucker in, rack the slide, then defend myself.Are you against keeping one in the chamber too?
Oh shit. Ex Millitary. That changes everything. I have a tip for you.....they all are. Either ex military, ex CIA, ex marine snipers, etc, etc, etc. Any time firearms are involved everyone's embellished credentials come out....and they usually suck.
I actually keep all of my ammo in my left pocket and the magazines empty on my belt. I train to load all 15 rounds, pop that sucker in, rack the slide, then defend myself.
I'm fresh out of CCW training......
Op, do you have pretty extensive marksmanship knowledge and are used to carrying?
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