Multiple kudos to Barton and their shifter...........After install, no miss shifts, as you stated reverse does require more effort, well worth the trade off, with the sloppy stock shifter and bracket.
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Multiple kudos to Barton and their shifter...........After install, no miss shifts, as you stated reverse does require more effort, well worth the trade off, with the sloppy stock shifter and bracket.
It would be nice if a company would take it one step further and make a bracket that attaches to the trans and the frame and the body to stop the trans from twisting in relation to the shifter.
from what I can tell, the 5.0 powered cars (GT/BOSS) use the chinese built MT-82 (368.73 ft lbs max torque rating) transmissions, the GT500 uses the stronger TR-6060 (600 ft lbs max torque rating) so the problems that someone is having in a 5.0 powered car won't be the same that the GT500 would be having.
the only thing in common with these transmissions is both are 6 speed..
the only thing in common with these transmissions is both are 6 speed..
They both also have a floating shifter, which I believe is what causes some of the lock-out/missed shifts. Guys with GT500's also seem to have their fair share of trans issues.
I have had both cars and this car (boss) is much more temperamental with the shifts than any of my other Shelbys ever were. The Shelbys felt much more positive in the shifts and less like you are using a piece of rope to shift with.
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5th gear syncro gone after 4000mi
Typical 3rd crunching after 7000 rpm, 5th gear syncro went at 4000 miles. Opening box next week. Seriously thinking of swapping in a T56 magnum XL. The MT82 is not ment for the boss. Torque limit is 380ft/lbs!!. MT 82's work great in Ford Transit vans and Land Rover Defenders but thats with a diesel (122Hp)............Get real Ford.
First time a gear box ever failed on me. Love the car but deeply disappointed with the gear box
Typical 3rd crunching after 7000 rpm, 5th gear syncro went at 4000 miles. Opening box next week. Seriously thinking of swapping in a T56 magnum XL. The MT82 is not ment for the boss. Torque limit is 380ft/lbs!!. MT 82's work great in Ford Transit vans and Land Rover Defenders but thats with a diesel (122Hp)............Get real Ford.
First time a gear box ever failed on me. Love the car but deeply disappointed with the gear box
Someone had said that Ford stuck with the MT82 in the Boss because tremac wouldn't supply a trans in ford's price range. A little sad since I could bet that anyone who actually drives this car would have opted for a tr6060 or magnum swap had Ford given us the option.
I have a new 2013 Boss 302 and I have some notichyness on fast and slow shifts from 1-2. It's worse if reving above 7k and fast. So, it's not really that fun to shift fast right now. Shifting from 2-3 is smooth slow shifting (even at sub-50 temps). Shifting from 2-3 fast (7k rpm) is decent. But not as bad as 1-2.
I'm going to swap out the transmission fluid to see if that helps (Redline 70W-80 or 75W-90). If that doesn't help might change out the shifter. After that, I'm getting the Tremec T56 magnum XL Package (which includes a shifter, single piece drive shaft, and a whole boat load of other goodies).
Just for the heck of it I tracked down the builder of the MT82 in China and asked for a quote. They said no problem sending me a box for 2084 bucks plus shipping. Why oh why did ford do such a dumb ass thing to a great car.
Putting in a MGW (ordered it before the syncro went) and new syncros while I save up some money for the Magnum XL. What would you guys recommend for lubricant in the MT82 while I save cash?? Redline has told me that they will no recommend MTL, any other ideas??
Putting in a MGW (ordered it before the syncro went) and new syncros while I save up some money for the Magnum XL. What would you guys recommend for lubricant in the MT82 while I save cash?? Redline has told me that they will no recommend MTL, any other ideas??
My trans has the notchy 1-2 and 2-3. My biggest problem is where the clutch engages. My clutch will engage an inch or two off the floor. I wish it was more in the middle of the pedal travel. On these hydraulic clutches, is there any way to adjust where engagement happens?
Same here.
2,100 miles on the clock and I get the most god awful noise when shifting to 2nd for the first couple minutes of driving. Sounds like some threw a aluminum can into a wood chipper. Once the car warms up everything is great, no lock out, grinding, or anything. But that initial shift to 2nd always makes me cringe.
Until everything warms up, I just skip second and go to third, seems to be better that way.
No way, not me. But mine works PERFECT. I would not want to give up a gear to overdrive.
BTW- anyone who complains about their MT82 before it has a few thousand miles on it is not giving it a chance. Mine worked better at 500 and waaaay better by 3000 miles. Just don't do much shifting while it's cold and it will get a lot better with age.
Can we get past the "the MT82 is only rated for..." crap? They hold up just fine until you're at the stratospheric power levels. A friend has a GT350 with a tune and he's got something like 30,000 miles on it now. He's running about 600 to the wheels.
While its great that you aren't having issues obviously its not the case for everyone- additionally it's not just due to the cold or huge power levels? Are you calling owners with problems liars? Come on man, that's pretty messed up. Glad yours works great but that doesn't mean they all do
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While its great that you aren't having issues obviously its not the case for everyone- additionally it's not just due to the cold or huge power levels? Are you calling owners with problems liars? Come on man, that's pretty messed up. Glad yours works great but that doesn't mean they all do
Even worse is when you take it to a track that is more then 1/4 of a mile and straight. On a road course, I assume because of the floating shifter, you can run into issues when going out of a corner and trying to shift.
While its great that you aren't having issues obviously its not the case for everyone- additionally it's not just due to the cold or huge power levels? Are you calling owners with problems liars? Come on man, that's pretty messed up. Glad yours works great but that doesn't mean they all do
Apparently you didn't read my post and just lumped me in with the people that say there's nothing wrong with the MT82... That's not what I wrote. I wrote two things, first put some miles on the trans before you make a harsh decision, and second that the trans is capable of a hell of a lot more than 380 foot pounds. That's it.
So yeah I guess you could somehow read into what I wrote that people with problems are liars.. :bash:
Would you at some point consider replacing the trans with something a little more robust though?
I had my boss for 1000 miles. I bought the car with 3000 miles on it. I had a sticky clutch pedal and was getting locked outa gears. I had ford customer service involved through the whole process.
They replaced the master/slave cylinder, clutch, and finally the trans. I was still having issues. After 2 months of the car being in the shop, I made the dealership but the car back. One of the more frustrating issues I have dealt with. Dealership was great and fords cc was good but they couldn't get it fixed.
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They replaced the master/slave cylinder, clutch, and finally the trans. I was still having issues. After 2 months of the car being in the shop, I made the dealership but the car back. One of the more frustrating issues I have dealt with. Dealership was great and fords cc was good but they couldn't get it fixed.
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No, the only real power related failures I know of are RACERAT powershifting her car with more than twice the factory output. The design is sound, the manufacturing quality is suspect. I KNOW that before long you'll be able to buy a rebuilt "blue printed" trans that will be sweet. Mine works perfect, so I know they can work perfect. No way I'd go to a double overdrive trans like the Shelby GT500 has.
The clutch on the other hand is likely the culprit for many "transmission related issues" and I'm sure someone will have a nice aftermarket one. Someday I'll replace mine with something other than OEM. :beer:
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