Another navy ship collision, is the navy out of control?
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I was wondering if something like this could be going on too? Seems silly that we have 2 major collisions like this in 3 months after going years with nothing.
Is there not See and Avoid tactics in place? I understand how congested the space can be but come on.
RIP for the Shipmates who were lost.
RIP for the Shipmates who were lost.
There are always measures in place to avoid collisions. But we don't know the full circumstances. We don't know what vessel she had on her right, or in front of them that prevented maneuvering
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I'm anxiously awaiting the investigation into the possibility of hacking. That, if proven true, should alarm our armed services more than just a little. The consequences of China or another country gaining control of our ships and planes (and more) to any degree would be very alarming. We need to further develop/strengthen our electronics defenses. China surely invests heavily in their ability to hack our systems, both home and abroad. Russia as well.
Some remains of the 10 missing found in sealed compartments. Royal Malaysian Navy found 1 body as well but no confirmation he was from the ship yet. This is so infuriating and sad. RIP to those men and women. I cant imagine what the families of those sailors are going through.
CNO has ordered an operational pause across the entire Navy warship fleet to ensure safety and effective operations. Training and assessments mandatory.
He also said, "2 clarify Re: possibility of cyber intrusion or sabotage, no indications right now...but review will consider all possibilities"
https://twitter.com/CNORichardson/status/899723986908655620
Can we be a little more professional with our tweets?
CNO has ordered an operational pause across the entire Navy warship fleet to ensure safety and effective operations. Training and assessments mandatory.
He also said, "2 clarify Re: possibility of cyber intrusion or sabotage, no indications right now...but review will consider all possibilities"
https://twitter.com/CNORichardson/status/899723986908655620
Can we be a little more professional with our tweets?
There is one on the flight deck, one aft at the missile deck, one forward.
So the collision should have been caught on tape, right?
Probably.
You won't. Even if you could the camera is there to catch what happens on ship. The keys in both collisions are the bell log, which records all engineering and steering commands, the gyro logs which log the heading course speed and gps location, and the recording of net 15, the ships internal command net. That'll put together a picture of what the ship knew, when they knew it, and how they reacted.
I'm an Air Force guy but called it right. Next incident the Pacific Fleet Commander will go and maybe the Sec of the Navy.
When you lose people and bend metal...folks get fired up top to shake it up a bit.
When you lose people and bend metal...folks get fired up top to shake it up a bit.
If there were any type of electronic warfare afoot, I don't believe it would be 'hacking'. More likely it would be spoofing of the sensors, which has been postulated as the cause of this situation last year:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_U.S.–Iran_naval_incident
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_U.S.–Iran_naval_incident
That's what made it fun. We had numerous Iranian Navy boats play chicken with us and even launch a "test" missile while I was on the Truman. Gathering footage for their propaganda videos.
If found out to be true, I would be very surprised they are so brazen like that. I know the barriers are being tested all the time but this is going up a notch.
I'm curious how they're hacking a closed loop system? Spies on board? It's especially interesting considering the system can go full manual
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