This (which is pretty common).....
And this.....You're getting more money!! Would you rather have had less money and 5 more vacation days? You've been offered a nice package IMO.
Full heath benefits?
Whats normal for starting paid vacation leave?
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This (which is pretty common).....
And this.....You're getting more money!! Would you rather have had less money and 5 more vacation days? You've been offered a nice package IMO.
Full heath benefits?
Agree, I hate hearing that from friends. It just encourages people to go to work sick, which gets everyone else sick.
I've heard of plenty of people getting VERY little PTO when they start entry level jobs, even with a college degree. Like you get paid shit, maybe $40k to start and get maybe a week of PTO, vacation and sick leave combined. Can't believe companies can find people to work for that, plus expect them to have a degree and experience in the field.
10 days is pretty common. I work in the steel industry and got offered 88 hrs upon hire. I think you got a good deal, especially with being offered more than you asked.
Normally I would say to negotiate it. But they came in over your asking salary so from their perspective you're already getting a good package.
Though I will go against the grain a little and say in a lot of the more employee-focused firms 2 weeks is actually slightly below what I'm used to seeing. My first entry level position out of college offered 3 weeks. The company I'm about to start with also starts at 3 weeks. The only one I've interviewed with that offered 2 was a family owned plastics company in a small town.
Though I will go against the grain a little and say in a lot of the more employee-focused firms 2 weeks is actually slightly below what I'm used to seeing. My first entry level position out of college offered 3 weeks. The company I'm about to start with also starts at 3 weeks. The only one I've interviewed with that offered 2 was a family owned plastics company in a small town.
Everyone has already said it, but any leave at all is good for a new guy. I know lots of friends that have zero PTO, but they usually have generous LWOP policies.
Both my jobs are around 2 weeks paid vacation per year, plus 10-11 holidays, and generous flex hours and work from home policies.
Both my jobs are around 2 weeks paid vacation per year, plus 10-11 holidays, and generous flex hours and work from home policies.
2 weeks isn't bad
me personally i would negotiate for an extra week. 2 weeks is good for college kids just graduating and getting their first job. Experienced working professionals should expect more. When you have wife, kids, family, church and other obligations 10 days isnt crap to stretch out over an entire year.
If you dont ask you could be stuck at 10 days for 2 or 3 yrs or more.
If you dont ask you could be stuck at 10 days for 2 or 3 yrs or more.
This is America goddammit *grumblegrumblegrumble* you should be happy you even have a job! *grumblegrumblegrumble* Vacation is for sissies! *grumblegrumblegrumble*
But yeah, 10-15 days a year starting is pretty much standard. I had 10 days starting at my last job (I think I had to work a year before I got it - I don't remember) but I got 15 days/year at my current company plus, essentially, "unlimited" sick days (obviously, if you're "sick" like twice a month, it'll probably get looked into) plus something like 7-9 holidays (MLK, Labor Day, Thanksgiving, day after thanksgiving, Dec24/25/31/Jan1st)
But yeah, 10-15 days a year starting is pretty much standard. I had 10 days starting at my last job (I think I had to work a year before I got it - I don't remember) but I got 15 days/year at my current company plus, essentially, "unlimited" sick days (obviously, if you're "sick" like twice a month, it'll probably get looked into) plus something like 7-9 holidays (MLK, Labor Day, Thanksgiving, day after thanksgiving, Dec24/25/31/Jan1st)
Absolutely try and negotiate more. I've tried it the last several jobs and it actually surprised them. They were mostly like "uhhh, we've never tried that, but its a good idea!" In the end HR always kicked it back, but I did get more money.
I think it's pretty standard. I'm an ANG technician (fed employee) and we start with 4 hours per pay period, which adds up to about 2.5 weeks. We also get 4 hours of sick leave per pay period on top of that. We increase to 6 hours after 3 years and 8 hours after 12 years.
The private sector varies so much that I think you got a pretty sweet offer.
The private sector varies so much that I think you got a pretty sweet offer.
I'm a little shocked at the responses. 18 paid days leave each year is not enough? That's two days short of a full 4 weeks off. If you need more time than that take your days unpaid, which is exactly the same as getting less pay and more time off.
Or maybe start your own business where everyday you don't work you make no money, because things did not get done.
Or maybe start your own business where everyday you don't work you make no money, because things did not get done.
Then you don't get vacation days. Sad day.
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Nothing like getting offered more than you want, then complaining about not getting enough paid days off and justifying it by saying that's what the tax payers paid you for. You're a new guy, be happy you're even getting paid time off, liberal.
I transitioned to the corp world after 21 yrs active duty AF in 2010. A couple of points for you to think about based on my own experiences.
1. Your not gonna see "30" days paid leave entry level anything. Maybe as a "C" level exec...
2. IT wouldn't hurt to try negotiating more vacation, but be prepared to give up some pay to get it.
3. Like you my offer was about 15% higher than I anticipated for the position based on research into the local area and my earned PTO (paid leave) came out to 80 hrs a year or two weeks. The first year of my job I only took 40hrs of PTO since I got all the regular holidays off without using it and I rolled the remainder over to the next calendar year. I also fill a critical position so I have to coordinate in advance any major time off anyway. At the end of the day, the earned PTO isnt that big of a deal that I thought it would be after enjoying 21ys of the 30 days of leave. You will find the corporate world alot more laid back compared to Active Duty and its easier to do things with out taking a month off.
4. Like others have said HR might just poopoo on any attempts to get more leave based on strict company policy, so be prepared to take it or leave it.
Good Luck and welcome to civilian life, its wonderful!
Well I just got formal offer, they wouldnt budge on leave, but they upped salary and gave me sign on bonus in addition to yearly bonus. So Ill take what I can get. Looking forward to new opportunity and the new position. Thanks everyone for your input. Glad I asked about it, because it just made me some $.
OP I just got a new job and they offered me 20 PTO days
Liberal? Not even close. But thanks for the invaluable input to my thread lol
Look at the source. Congrats on the new position.
Good luck not getting killed in Bmore lol. I work in the Curtis Bay district...
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