After 8 years could be much less than half. Maybe 15% haha.Lol. There could be a deviation of 3-5% it’s not going to be half.
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After 8 years could be much less than half. Maybe 15% haha.Lol. There could be a deviation of 3-5% it’s not going to be half.
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Lol. There could be a deviation of 3-5% it’s not going to be half.
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Tesla is already being investigated for range lying. How easy for the algorithm to just ease that range degradation into the background.
Don’t you have better things to do today like buy a new car? That mustang in your avatar looks 20 months old. Time for a new one.
After 8 years could be much less than half. Maybe 15% haha.
It’s not. I understand you don’t like EVs, but everything you’re saying is not based on anything that remotely resembles the truth. There are 1000s of Model S Teslas in the used marketplace with 100k+ miles that are 10+ years old that still get 200 miles of range, (way less than 30% degradation). Losing 50% is the exception, not the rule.
The biggest problem with EVs is how you care for the battery. Heat destroys longevity, (only using supercharging to charge the battery) running the battery too low also destroys the capacity over time. But if you have a garage and charge it every night and don’t let the battery run too low, the degradation is minimal.
But I don’t care, I didn’t buy it as a longterm investment. It’s a toy to have fun in for the next couple years, Ill replace it with whatever is the next best thing lol.
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I didn't read through it all as it's a pretty pointless thread to begin with. I'm not going to research every claim you've ever made because honestly, I don't give a shit.
You work for your money. You can spend it however you like.
But for some reason, you think you should dictate how others can spend theirs.
And government subsidies do not account for all EVs on the road as not all qualify.
There are many cons to EVs. Efficiency isn't one of them.
Energy Storage is a dead end technology.
You will never be able to "Store" the same amount of energy as a tank of gasoline/diesel/H2 and refuel it in a way that itns time consuming without destroying the battery.
Its a blackhole.
Lol, half the distance? Battery degradation isn’t nearly that bad. The battery has a 8 year 150k mile warranty with a max degradation of 30%. Meaning, if it sees more than 30% Tesla will replace the battery under warranty. Most see around 15-20% in that time.
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Man that’s crazy since my gas tank will still hold 36 gallons in 150,000 miles no matter how hard I beat the shit outta this Yote.
Empirical evidence is that ev’s are generally dogshit for a good number of people. Get back to me when battery tech performs better and I will re-analyze. I don’t need to post my engineering degree to know this.
I'm still laughing at him thinking your coyote v8 eff one fiddy "no reason to buy an ecoboost" thread is the thread you were talking about when you referenced your ev research
You sir are a clown. Go back to school and try to learn something this time.Lol. No doubt. Although, ICE engines will become less efficient overtime and see less range per fill up
I agree with most of the talking points here, EV is not about efficiency or replacing ICE. It’s just like buying a $1000 coffee maker, it’s the latest gadget, just an expensive toy.
I’m saving tons of money on gas, but that’s moot considering the initial investment is way more expensive and so is my insurance. I pay more for my Tesla than my brand new Corvette and GT500, (when I had it). Significantly more.
But, I don’t care. I could have bought a $100k BMW or Mercedes, it would have more luxury, but I opted for the Plaid because I’m a speed addict.
Also, I prefer to buy American. The Tesla has more domestic part content than any Ford, GM or Dodge. Significantly more. The only Tesla that has foreign part content is certain Model 3s with Chinese LFP batteries.
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You sir are a clown. Go back to school and try to learn something this time.
Yes your ignorance has brought me to tears!You gonna cry? You sound like a little girl. Grow up cupcake.
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Genuinely curious here... let's say I agree that " An electric motor is more efficient than an ICE by three fold."No one assumes this. You're again just making up BS statements to try and back some ideological viewpoint.
An electric motor is more efficient than an ICE by three fold. That's just science.
Whether or not an EV works for your application is up to the buyer. If it doesn't, don't buy it and move on.
Genuinely curious here... let's say I agree that " An electric motor is more efficient than an ICE by three fold."
BUT the fuel that it takes to run the engine/motor is taken into account as well as creating the mechanism to store (battery/fuel tank) the "fuel" until it is converted into kinetic energy, would you still stand by your statement? That doesn't even bring into account the power generation (for EV) or pumping/refining the oil (for ICE), just what it takes to make and use the supporting parts of the motor/engine that are required to run it.
Efficiency is simply output divided by input. In the case of EV motors, it's the conversion of electrical energy into kinetic energy.
As a simple consumer, I don't necessarily care how the product is derived as I'm not an activist for either side.
I pay $0.13 a kw and I paid ~52k for the car minus the tax credit resulting in $44.5k. This effectively cuts my fuel costs to about 33% while also giving me a car that goes 0-60 in 3.1s, has brembro brakes on all four corners, requires almost no maintenance, and adds the convenience of never having to stop at gas stations.
I'm not going to go down the rabbit holes of precious metal mining, 'green energy' production, carbon emissions, etc...
Those mines are going to stay open whether or not I buy an EV as the metals are used in everything from your catalytic converter to your cell phone. The dems are going to continue to push windmills and solar regardless of the vehicle I drive (while somehow also completely ignoring the actual viable power source- Nuclear.) And foreign countries like China and India don't give two shits about carbon emissions.
I evaluated the car for what it is. Not what someone tells me it 'should be' or what it 'should represent'.