The HARD TRUTH about EVs

[*Jay*]

I'm trying to figure out the cable thickness that would allow safe charging of an EV in the following scenario, since they keep claiming 5-minute charging is just around the corner.

Tesla with 100Kwh battery going from 20 to 80% charge, since they all slow down after 80% to protect the battery. So that means the cable has to safely and repeatedly transfer 60 Kwh in 5 minutes to the car. I tried computing the copper thickness required and didn't seem to make sense. It would have to be 1000w+/150a ish?

Electricians?

This is the cable that is used, you can see the specs page here.

CCS1 300A 350A | EV Charging Coupler Cable

E-valucon manufactures Buy America ready, NEVI compliant couplers and cables for electric vehicle charging. Compatible with NACS (Tesla), CCS1, CCS2, J1772, and CHAdeMO.

www.evalucon.com

 

[Weather Man]

This is the cable that is used, you can see the specs page here.

CCS1 300A 350A | EV Charging Coupler Cable

E-valucon manufactures Buy America ready, NEVI compliant couplers and cables for electric vehicle charging. Compatible with NACS (Tesla), CCS1, CCS2, J1772, and CHAdeMO.

www.evalucon.com

Less than 2 inches, impressive.

 

[*Jay*]

Less than 2 inches, impressive.

 

[Weather Man]

 

[*Jay*]

This is actually a big knock against my wifes G70, way too connected with their app.

 

[blk02edge]

I'm trying to figure out the cable thickness that would allow safe charging of an EV in the following scenario, since they keep claiming 5-minute charging is just around the corner.

Tesla with 100Kwh battery going from 20 to 80% charge, since they all slow down after 80% to protect the battery. So that means the cable has to safely and repeatedly transfer 60 Kwh in 5 minutes to the car. I tried computing the copper thickness required and didn't seem to make sense. It would have to be 1000w+/150a ish?

Electricians?

The faster charging in the future will likely do so with higher voltage which means cable size does not need to increase

 

[PhoenixM3]

This is actually a big knock against my wifes G70, way too connected with their app.

Chevy has agreed to stop selling/sharing data with LexisNexis and Verisk effective March 22nd. Many are concerned because the cars data log "acceleration, hard braking, and high speed events. It's only a matter of time before this info gets shared with the insurance companies. There are still many of us who will disconnect/block one of the transmission antennas in the C8. I plan on doing that this week when I take the car out of storage....

 

[Weather Man]

Chevy has agreed to stop selling/sharing data with LexisNexis and Verisk effective March 22nd. Many are concerned because the cars data log "acceleration, hard braking, and high speed events. It's only a matter of time before this info gets shared with the insurance companies. There are still many of us who will disconnect/block one of the transmission antennas in the C8. I plan on doing that this week when I take the car out of storage....

Didn't take long for youtube video's on disconnecting telematics on GM vehicles to start showing up after that story broke.

 

[Rb0891]

The faster charging in the future will likely do so with higher voltage which means cable size does not need to increase

I feel like the 2 Koreans can charge at a higher voltage.

 

[Weather Man]

Can you say throttled?

Better grid management
While today's grid impact from EV charging infrastructure is modest, demands could change rapidly. Utilities can reduce grid impact by counting on integrated software embedded in the EVs and charging locations. Integrated software allows utilities to have remote monitoring and control of the EV chargers. Operators can then aggregate and shift EV loads to balance the grid. In addition to home charging, utilities can manage the power needs of the increasing number of public, corridor and fleet charging sites on the multi-megawatt scale.
https://www.pwc.com/us/en/industries...structure.html

 

[Fat Boss]

Close LOL, no guarantee's about parts supplies!

Desperate Fisker Drops Ocean Base Price to $24,999 in an Attempt to Survive​

The Ocean is now something it was never intended to be: The cheapest EV in America.​

It's not just the base model getting a tempting price tag. Fisker cut the range-topping Ocean Extreme nearly in half, dropping $24,000 from the sticker. It now starts at $37,499 (down from $61,499) and that gets you a dual-motor SUV with 564 horsepower in Boost Mode and a 0-60 mph time under 4 seconds.

Desperate Fisker Drops Ocean Base Price to $24,999 in an Attempt to Survive

Fisker has made drastic price cut on its Ocean SUV, with the starting price now down to $24,999. It's the cheapest EV in America.

www.motor1.com

Might be a good lease option for someone out there. If they go belly-up, maybe you can stop paying and just keep it until it breaks.

 

[svtfocus2cobra]

Chevy has agreed to stop selling/sharing data with LexisNexis and Verisk effective March 22nd. Many are concerned because the cars data log "acceleration, hard braking, and high speed events. It's only a matter of time before this info gets shared with the insurance companies. There are still many of us who will disconnect/block one of the transmission antennas in the C8. I plan on doing that this week when I take the car out of storage....

Are you telling me we need tinfoil hats for our vehicles now?

 

[PhoenixM3]

Didn't take long for youtube video's on disconnecting telematics on GM vehicles to start showing up after that story broke.

Exactly. Felony speeding is a bad habit….but Im good at it lol.

 

[PhoenixM3]

Are you telling me we need tinfoil hats for our vehicles now?

Unfortunately, it’s coming to that

 

[blk02edge]

Are you telling me we need tinfoil hats for our vehicles now?

Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't this been a thing for a few years now?

 

[Fastback]

Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't this been a thing for a few years now?

Sure, but most of you believed what the salesman said. It's just to update the software in the info-entertainment systems! Keeping you up to date on the newest "advancements" from GM, Ford, and every other manufacturer.

Oh, ok! I'll take it!

I'm not singling you personally, just in general with new car buyers. Now it comes out.

 

[lOOKnGO]

Nolte: More EV Fail as Ford ‘Drastically Cuts’ Detroit Workforce

“Ford will drastically cut the number of hourly workers at its factory that builds the Ford F-150 Lightning as sales of electric vehicles slow,” a local media outlet reported.

www.breitbart.com

 

[Weather Man]

 

[kaz109]

Close LOL, no guarantee's about parts supplies!

Desperate Fisker Drops Ocean Base Price to $24,999 in an Attempt to Survive​

The Ocean is now something it was never intended to be: The cheapest EV in America.​

It's not just the base model getting a tempting price tag. Fisker cut the range-topping Ocean Extreme nearly in half, dropping $24,000 from the sticker. It now starts at $37,499 (down from $61,499) and that gets you a dual-motor SUV with 564 horsepower in Boost Mode and a 0-60 mph time under 4 seconds.

Desperate Fisker Drops Ocean Base Price to $24,999 in an Attempt to Survive

Fisker has made drastic price cut on its Ocean SUV, with the starting price now down to $24,999. It's the cheapest EV in America.

www.motor1.com

Well this turned out to be a complete lie

 

[blk02edge]

Sure, but most of you believed what the salesman said. It's just to update the software in the info-entertainment systems! Keeping you up to date on the newest "advancements" from GM, Ford, and every other manufacturer.

Oh, ok! I'll take it!

I'm not singling you personally, just in general with new car buyers. Now it comes out.

My newest vehicle is a 2015 so I think I'm good...