Thp Ftw
und3rgr0undk1ng said:With all due respect Jason, you're really the only one in favor of the Hellion , not just on this thread but on the other forums also. Seems like its 50/50 on THP vs. HPP and Hellion gets the single turbo votes.
, do you know anything about it? do you know how much the turbo alone costs? Do you know the other changes that were made to the kit to support the 88? You read a few things and make assumptions and then post these opinions thatare just bogus because you don't have all the information. just had another, yes another guy call me today because he isn't happy with his fitment of the HP twin kit and he is thinking of selling it for a hellion and I never talked to him prior, but everyone else he talked to said he should go hellion and now he regrets not doing it. if he does go through with it, which he may just sell the car because he is so fed up with the HP, that would be 2 HP guys that sold the kits for a hellion and I had a THP guy sell his for hellion. And I have had others think about changing as well. It's just like you think the downpipe is junk and the turbonetics turbo is junk because you read something on an import board.I know the 88mm Hellion kit can hang but its 8 grand with no options !!! WTF
und3rgr0undk1ng said:I think its a no brainer.....All the other forums I go to ppl are using THP or HPP and very few hellions. What you're paying for with hellion is the no wait factor. Ppl pay thru the nose cuz they dont have to wait 3 months.
I know the 88mm Hellion kit can hang but its 8 grand with no options !!! WTF !! Im gonna keep my fingers crossed and hope this twin trade goes thru. Altho I spoke to Jim about sendin him my 67's in exchange for some 61's which will spool faster. Otherwise I might do the motor first and then order a new THP kit in a few months.
With all due respect Jason, you're really the only one in favor of the Hellion , not just on this thread but on the other forums also. Seems like its 50/50 on THP vs. HPP and Hellion gets the single turbo votes.
TRBO VNM said:news flash, you aren't going to make more peak power with a larger downpipe. the turbo will only flow as much as it can and at what boost level it does is determined by many factors. the larger downpipe will be more efficient on any turbo, but if it can only support say 1000hp, you aren't going to make 1200hp because of a larger downpipe. you will make the 1000hp at a lower boost level. just like the eaton, whipple, KB or centri blower. they can only flow so much volume. you won't magically change that with a larger downpipe. you need to change the internals of the turbo.
so whats ur trap speed?eebj01 said:I just came across this post. I think it's funny how trbovnm always jumps in to push the Hellion kits and then says that when you call around and ask questions, they are going to tell you what to buy and what is better based on what they want to sell you. Isn't trbovnm a Hellion dealer? EXACTLY. I have the THP twin kit and I can tell you that I have made more hp and torque through an automatic at any boost level than most of the Hellion cars. There are some out there I'm sure that have made more with better supporting parts. All I hear is that THP #'s are inflated because of this correction and that air and this humidity. Well, I know what mine made and what mile an hour it turned at the track. I know that my pump gas tune with a super rich a/f pulled a higher mile an hour than most Hellions on race fuel. I have been looking to go to Cecil County since April to shut up some Hellion guys that evidently know more than I do but someone (trbovnm) doesn't have a car that runs. Don't bad mouth other people's stuff because they bought what you don't sell and endorse. If Hellion's customer service is second to none, then they are tied with Jim at Turbo Horsepower. For years (and alot of different cars) I have always wanted to do a turbo setup but I was always worried about sending alot of money to some dude that was going to keep it and send me a box of rocks if I was lucky. Jim IS the only guy I have ever sent money to because he doesn't b.s. you on the phone and seems honest. I called him up about some flanges and piping because I don't like the sound of open wastegates in my convertible. No problem, parts on the way. I've sat by idle and not said much. Even when I had my Whipple, it was always...those parts are junk, noone runs that, that won't work, etc. Now it's the same thing. Those turbos are too big, too much lag, why not go with a Hellion, THP's numbers are inflated, I am on my knees for John Urist so why aren't you?, I'm tired of it. Give a guy an honest answer with facts not opinions and personal preference. You keep talking personal preference and you'll be trying to talk him into being queer. Next thing you know you'll be PARTNERS and will be adopting children. Stick to the facts. If you don't know what the facts are, don't reply and add your preferences. The facts are that Hellions are in stock and are stainless. THP kits take 45-50 days and are mild steel but Jet Hot coated. By the way, the Jet Hot coated pipe inside and out keeps the underhood temperatures cooler than your stainless piping just so you know. That's another benefit. As I would tell someone, if you can't wait for a couple of months, go with the Hellion. If you can wait, THP is the way to go.
Now comes the fun. Now I'll be slandered by these guys with hours of time on their hands because they are little computer panzies that have nothing better to do because they don't have girlfriends or wives and if they do, they are doing the neighbor while your playing internet dyno here. I'll be called every name in the book, just remember though, talk to me when you are man enough to put down 1000 rwhp through an automatic and drive it daily with a/c and the top down to and from work...in the rain when it happens too. I'm confident in this setup enough to have pulled the motor out of my truck to rebuild it and drive my car EVERY day since it's the only other vehicle I have. Now I'll heare that THP kits won't make 1000 rwhp. Tell it to my trap speed...bitch.
Now comes the fun. Now I'll be slandered by these guys with hours of time on their hands because they are little computer panzies that have nothing better to do because they don't have girlfriends or wives and if they do, they are doing the neighbor while your playing internet dyno here. I'll be called every name in the book, just remember though, talk to me when you are man enough to put down 1000 rwhp through an automatic and drive it daily with a/c and the top down to and from work...in the rain when it happens too. I'm confident in this setup enough to have pulled the motor out of my truck to rebuild it and drive my car EVERY day since it's the only other vehicle I have. Now I'll heare that THP kits won't make 1000 rwhp. Tell it to my trap speed...bitch.
eebj01 said:My trap speed is plenty high but I'm still man enough that I don't make contact with the wall at Cecil County. That's something to be proud of. I can run on 18" wheels and not come close to the wall. Be a man.
eebj01 said:A Mustang? What's that? I have a Pacer. Do you even know what that is? I have to remember that I am dealing mostly with little snot nosed punks that are very wet behind the ears and evidently young, dumb, and full of cum. Dady buys their rides
eebj01 said:I just don't understand why people give their input but they really don't know what they are talking about. Every combo is different. I ran 21 psi on pump gas with my Whipple. Everyone bashed me. Turns out the car when 135 mph on drag radials. I drove it every day all summer long in 90+ heat.
eebj01 said:When I first started with Mustangs, we were street racing Saturday nights. We didn't go and tell a guy his $10,000 combo is junk or that is wasn't well thought out. If you did, you got smacked in the mouth because you were there in person, not bench racing on the internet. Hey, I talked my share in good fun. I just wasn't belligerent about things. Trbovnm you will have a pm shortly.