THEY SAID 160,000 NOT 60,000. THATS 1 OUT OF EVERY 16 MUSTANGS.:read:
GT500 produced well into 2010? Looks that way!
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THEY SAID 160,000 NOT 60,000. THATS 1 OUT OF EVERY 16 MUSTANGS.:read:
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Dealerships average cost is about around $62K on a Z06. Pay $70K and they made $9K on a "discounted" car. Read some more!!!:read:
lol, rading > ODB
edit: wow, after doing a search, "carsdirect.com" doesnt hold a candle to autotrader.com! 5 listings for jaguar XJRs within 300 miles of 43055 vs. 96 listings for jaguar XJRs within 300 miles of 43055
edit: wow, after doing a search, "carsdirect.com" doesnt hold a candle to autotrader.com! 5 listings for jaguar XJRs within 300 miles of 43055 vs. 96 listings for jaguar XJRs within 300 miles of 43055
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wow!!!! you said a lot without answering my question!
when did i say anything about actual dealer price? i put up the invioce pricing because its an easy number to relate to. regardless of what the dealer pays(you as well as i know that dealers will pay different prices for thier vehicles at different times of the year. also the price will vary from dealer to dealer. plus the dealer will often recieve rebates that are not made public in addition to the rebates and percantage rates made public specifically to move inventory.
now i ask again, where can you find a brand new c6 7k below invoice pricing? you dont like the invoice in the question? where can you find a c6 at 35k.
last thing this has nothing to do with the conversation predicting msrp for the new camaro or the competition it will bring the mustang. people will pay more than the price of the c6 at the start of production. people will pay less than invoice a year or two later. meaning if msrp is 32k like many believe, you will have some selling for 28k or less!
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back on topic.................i got a ride in a GT500 test mule a couple of months back with the 2010 Shelby Powertrain. They were testing the exhaust combo's for the new body style to get the right sound............all I can say is that it sounded awesome and had some big tips!!
In my town GT500's arent rare at all, hell there are three times as many GT500's as there are TERMINATORS.
3- GT500's (1-white/blue stripes, 1- Black/silver strips, 1- Tungsten/Black stripes)
3- 05-07 Mustang GT's (1-Orange, 1 Blue C/S, 1 Silver)
2- 03/04 MACH I's (1- Azure Blue, 1- Red)
1- 03 Cobra (Black 10th ANN)
AND this is in KETCHIKAN ALASKA! No roads to anywhere other than right here. So in short I have the rarest mustang in this locale.
The Tungsten/Black GT500 is still sitting at the local dealer.
3- GT500's (1-white/blue stripes, 1- Black/silver strips, 1- Tungsten/Black stripes)
3- 05-07 Mustang GT's (1-Orange, 1 Blue C/S, 1 Silver)
2- 03/04 MACH I's (1- Azure Blue, 1- Red)
1- 03 Cobra (Black 10th ANN)
AND this is in KETCHIKAN ALASKA! No roads to anywhere other than right here. So in short I have the rarest mustang in this locale.
The Tungsten/Black GT500 is still sitting at the local dealer.
Do I think it's maxed out? No.
Do I see ford trying to increase the power? No. Why, look at the history. The mustang has been behind on performance for over 15 years, and still put the camaro out of business. There was the show that stated..what does the mustang have over the camaro..those 7 letters... M U S T A N G.
Chevy had no answer for the Terminator and has no answer yet for the GT500
Im not too woried about, same for the Term owners, most of them now have twin screws and more power than god
Im not too woried about, same for the Term owners, most of them now have twin screws and more power than god
They had no answer because Ford went forced induction. Now chevy has upped the playing field with technology in their LSx motors series. We will see how many people jump from Ford to Chevy if a SS Camaro is introduced with a 427 LS7! Chevy is talking about a blown LS3 for their flagship Vette. I can see them sliding an LS7 into a Camaro for competition with the GT500.
I'm pretty sure a GT500 and a C6 corvette are pretty close in performance...unfortunately..you can probably get a C6 for a few thousand cheaper.
so the base V8 for the camaro is speculated to be atleast 400hp, yet you dont think ford will raise the 4.6 to atleast 330hp or something? they would be absoloutly stupid not to! when the redesigned 05' stangs came out, dealerships had $5k mark ups on the GTs through the first year, what do you think its gonna be like for the new camaro and challenger? i have no doubt that demand will be far greater for them than the mustang just because they will be the new "it" cars. i could see the camaro out selling the stang' the first 3 or so years, just because of popularity, with the following years being a toss up.
this isnt the game that was played 10 years ago, i dont think GM is stupid enough to make the same mistakes again. ford is gonna have to pull some stuff out of the bag if they want to keep the sales lead in the pony car market the first few years. and a front end redesign isnt it.
I think Lutz is quoted as saying something along the lines of, "the Camaro will be within $500 of the Mustang at every price point."
To think that a base V8 Camaro will be $36k is dreaming and you are going to wake up to a nightmare of a Camaro kicking a Mustangs rearend for basically the same money.
As for the comments about GM having nothing to compete with the GT500. Maybe not the first year and the GT500 may not even be around after that. However, if GM can build their Flagship sports car for $44k, which bests the GT500 in every category, then they can certainly build a Camaro that competes with it for the same or less.
There is a serious possibility that Camaro could put some real sales pressure on Mustang for the first time in a long time. It is a darn good looking car and GM's engine development is very very impressive at this time. Perhaps the best engine development over the last 5 years than any other car maker. Not to mention their reliability ratings are up and their interiors have been vastly improving.
To think that a base V8 Camaro will be $36k is dreaming and you are going to wake up to a nightmare of a Camaro kicking a Mustangs rearend for basically the same money.
As for the comments about GM having nothing to compete with the GT500. Maybe not the first year and the GT500 may not even be around after that. However, if GM can build their Flagship sports car for $44k, which bests the GT500 in every category, then they can certainly build a Camaro that competes with it for the same or less.
There is a serious possibility that Camaro could put some real sales pressure on Mustang for the first time in a long time. It is a darn good looking car and GM's engine development is very very impressive at this time. Perhaps the best engine development over the last 5 years than any other car maker. Not to mention their reliability ratings are up and their interiors have been vastly improving.
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exactly!
I think the new Camaro might fail. :uh oh: Im sure its going to be a running sob but the design might not appeal to the masses and it sure isnt going to hook the older baby boomer segment that loved the 67-69s with the retro thing the way the Mustang did in 2005. Face it, whether every body likes it or not, the S197 Mustang caught on with the older crowd and that has really driven sales. I dont see that market jumping into the next Camaro but I guess we will see whenever this car makes it to market.
Im sure it looks better in person. :shrug: Right?
Im sure it looks better in person. :shrug: Right?
I honestly hope the camaro whoops a$$ on the mustangs!! This way gt500's will come down in price. And Competition brings out the best from manufactures and better pricing for consumers. Right now the mustang has no competition..so 2005-06-07-08 GT's have not changed a bit. Ford is not a proactive company..it's a reactive company.
With the competition done with its suspension/recovery time ;-), hopefully Ford will up the game significantly due to the renewed competition.
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I'm pretty sure a GT500 and a C6 corvette are pretty close in performance...unfortunately..you can probably get a C6 for a few thousand cheaper.
ahhhh man,
vette = sports car
gt500 = muscle car
camaro = muscle car
challenger = muscle car
firebird = muscle car
viper = sports car
you see 2 of those are in their own class, the viper and vette, Ford does not have a car in that category right now, since the F GT is out of production
hahah
Are you sure?
They built the Terminator when there was 0 competition from any body!
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I call that being proactive and same goes for the GT500
I think many of you need to go to the mulletsoftheworld.com website and buy a cheby
Haha. I always love the mullet and gold chain (corvette) comments. How long does it take to change a stereotype...always an interesting thing.
And if a Camaro is a Mullet Chariot then what does that make the cheaper Mustang? Oh yea, a girls car. Haha, just playing with you.:beer:
And technically the FGT was in another class than the viper and corvette, EXOTIC sports car. Meaning limited production and exclusive price tag.
I do agree with you about the Cobra and GT500 and I think Ford earned a lot of respect form the enthusiast crowd for that and there were quite a lot of converts and are still many contemplating it, like myself.
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