YA BUT IS'NT YOUR CAR MADE OF PLASTIC?:burnout:
2010 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 cometh, order guide leaked online
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YA BUT IS'NT YOUR CAR MADE OF PLASTIC?:burnout:
They've spec'd "SVT TUNED suspension" since 2006 (MY07). The primary changes other than the rounded off exterior and ugly tail lights is the interior. Much better (except those doofus looking rectangular center air vents). They paid attention to what most of us bitched about.....higher level materials, better ergos, nice console, steering wheel audio controls, Gen II Nav (I have this on my 09 Escape Hybrid and it's the shit), Sync, blah blah blah.
I noticed they're doing over the top stripes on the 'verts for 2010. Interesting. The best thing about the 2010 is the 18 x 9.5 wheels (vert) that will bolt onto my '07 GT500 and be a LOT better looking. I &^%$ing HATE my stock wheels and nothing in an 18 fits.
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what in the world are you talking about?
adding a blower to the mustang gt or adding a twin to the gt500? either way my statement stands. the ss and the gt500 will not be compared to each other.
what do you run with the 346? gt500 with bolt ons(ie stock blower) have hit 10.4's @ 130+ already!
...or you could look at it the other way and say that "YOU" need to lose as much weight as possible(fiberglass body, lack of back seat) at the expense of practicality just to hang with this 3850-41xxLbs car. either way you say it, its pretty much saying the same thing.
the even bigger question is what about heads and cams on the ls3(480 rwhp;-)) QUOTE]
Yeah, nothing like bolting on some heads and cams in the garage in an afternoon.oke:
Sorry I couldnt help it.:-D I just have alot of LS- friends that try to dog my blown car but cant beat it with just heads and cams as bad as they try.
One guy did finally get 500whp out of his GTO N/A but he has spent some serious $ and time to hit his goal and his car still looks like a G6.
the ls3 vette guys seem to be getting it done no problem(intake, exhaust, cams, heads, tune). it will take a little more on the gxp and the ss(more drivetrain loss). just saying its a much better platform than the 6.0.
your right cost will be high though. as high as simply adding a blower.:idea:
i own both (see sig) and the cars are so different i find it hard to compare the two. the vette is a light weight sports car and the mustang is an all steel pony car. they both have their good points and their bad ones too. there will always be somebody faster no matter what you have so it isn't worth even arguing about it.
Im just messing with you guys now.. I love the GT500's
BTW: The car ran 11.42 @ 126 MPH 4 Years ago.. My car should be done in the coming months. So, I'll post up the times, When I get them.. I also went a 7.42 @ 96 In the 1/8th.. also
All the times were on Stock goodyear super car tires... It made 416rwhp on a mustang dyno.
I done a combo.. Not long ago that I never took it to the track, But... It put down 433rwhp on that some dyno.. Now I have put a bigger cam, Better heads, Bigger headers, Ported intake, shaft mount rockers, 650lift Springs in the heads.. And some More, Also picked up a 2-Step:rockon:
The Same Combo went 9.93@ 137.5 Mph.. Set By Robz out of NY
dude you must of had some heavy mods when you ran that. those year Z06's were slow compared to the 03-04 cobra's. the times you posted are times from a 2007 Z06 with very light mods, so what did you have done to get that time?
Just a Heads/Cam/Headers.. Heads just flowed just under 300cfm with a 610 lift cam and 1 3/4 Lg Motorsports ProLong tubes.
Btw: Iv personally seen a 04 Zo6 run 8.10's with a great driver.. 03-04 Cobra's iv seen click off 8.30's.. Both close, But there's about 400lbs diffeance between the two cars..
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Buddy, Its ok... It's all in good fun, My dad has a 2007 Red with white strips gt500 that's awsome.. I'm just pulling you guy chains
If GM produces that Camaro.
Look Out, they have many high HP engine combos to choose from.
Look Out, they have many high HP engine combos to choose from.
Very true man... I just dont know if I want a SS or 2008 Shelby. Both are gonna be awsome cars:banana:
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I don't think GT500 owners have anything to worry about. Don't expect the new 4000 lb. Camaro to be anywhere near as fast as the much lighter Vettes.
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They don't have to be faster than a vette, just a GT500.
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Buddy, Its ok... It's all in good fun, My dad has a 2007 Red with white strips gt500 that's awsome.. I'm just pulling you guy chains
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Pull the IRS out of the 4000lb SS and you got a 3850lbs car.. Thats right about around the GT500.. Plus when you put the BIG Blower on it add weight also
I don't know where this notion started, but the Camaro SS is already 3,860#. No need to "pull the IRS out".
It is roughly the same weight as the GT500 and 200# lighter than the Challenger. It makes roughly the same power as the Challenger SRT-8 and it makes 80hp less than the GT500. They all have Brembo brakes. The Challenger and Camaro have an IRS, the GT500 does not.
Should the three cares be compared? I think its debatable.
They are each the best offering of the three manufacturers in the 2+2 performance coupe market. However, the difficulty in comparing them is the price and performance. I personally think the Camaro SS will prove to be the best bang for the buck. It should beat the $12,000 more expensive Challenger in pretty much every category and compete with the $12,000 more expensive GT500 in most categories with the possibility of upsetting it in one or two, while losing in straightline acceleration. That is pretty darn impressive for a car costing 30% less.
Camaro SS: $31,000
422hp, IRS, 3860#, Ring tuned suspension with 52/48 weight distribution, 245/275 tires, brembo brakes, 0.35 drag coeff.
Challenger SRT-8: $43,000 (with 6-speed manual and $1,700 guzzler tax)
425hp, IRS, 4140#, 55.6/44.4 weight distribution, 245/255 tires, brembo brakes. 0.353 drag coeff.
Shelby GT500: $43,000
500hp, SRA, 3920#, 57/43 weight distribution, 255/285 tires, brembo brakes, 0.384 drag coeff.
It is roughly the same weight as the GT500 and 200# lighter than the Challenger. It makes roughly the same power as the Challenger SRT-8 and it makes 80hp less than the GT500. They all have Brembo brakes. The Challenger and Camaro have an IRS, the GT500 does not.
Should the three cares be compared? I think its debatable.
They are each the best offering of the three manufacturers in the 2+2 performance coupe market. However, the difficulty in comparing them is the price and performance. I personally think the Camaro SS will prove to be the best bang for the buck. It should beat the $12,000 more expensive Challenger in pretty much every category and compete with the $12,000 more expensive GT500 in most categories with the possibility of upsetting it in one or two, while losing in straightline acceleration. That is pretty darn impressive for a car costing 30% less.
Camaro SS: $31,000
422hp, IRS, 3860#, Ring tuned suspension with 52/48 weight distribution, 245/275 tires, brembo brakes, 0.35 drag coeff.
Challenger SRT-8: $43,000 (with 6-speed manual and $1,700 guzzler tax)
425hp, IRS, 4140#, 55.6/44.4 weight distribution, 245/255 tires, brembo brakes. 0.353 drag coeff.
Shelby GT500: $43,000
500hp, SRA, 3920#, 57/43 weight distribution, 255/285 tires, brembo brakes, 0.384 drag coeff.
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2010 Camaro SS retail is $33,430.00, 422 hp (base, see link for additional costs for RS packages, decent rims, carpet in the front, spare tire etc) CAMARO PRICE COMPLETE LIST -- OPTIONS + ACCESSORIES (MSRP, Invoice, Employee) - Camaro Forum - 2009 Camaro / 2010 Camaro / New Camaro SS Z28 Forums - Camaro5.com
2009 Challenger SRT-8 retails is $39,820 plus $695 for 6 speed, $1,700 gas guzzler tax, $42,215.00 425 hp. To me is the worst bang for the buck, but the damn car is sexy.
2009 Shelby GT500 retails $43,125, 500 hp
2010 GT500, we don't know all the specs.
I think it would be a fun comparison, as your like to say the Camaro has tuned suspension, but so does the GT500, correct?
What camaro guys also forget is the gt500 comes with forged internals and potentially 600 hp for less than $1,200.00. And that unlike the Camaro, you can now get GT500's less than MSRP. You will be lucky to find a worthy Camaro for less than 37k out the door, with nice rims, sound system, etc.
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