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Steigemeier Stage V Torque Plate Issues
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Some of you need to chill.
And I think I/We (Some of the guys that work on our huge blowers) figured out the reason behind the TQ plate.
I don't have time to explain it tonight though.
And I think I/We (Some of the guys that work on our huge blowers) figured out the reason behind the TQ plate.
I don't have time to explain it tonight though.
You, my friend, are the example of what customer service should be all about. You're not even thinking about what this might cost you in time. You're more interested in helping people out because you know how potentially serious this problem is for many who have the Stage V port. I commend you for being so willing (no, so EAGER) to go the extra mile to help people out. :beer:
Jimmy S., I am not an expert in metallurgy, but your thoughts above make a ton of sense. It shouldn't be difficult for Bob S. to test this in his shop and then report back to those who have Stage V ports. Fast action will go a long way to calm the nerves of Stage V owners.
Now back to the discussion about the torque plate issues.
Agreed, no good solutions are ever found when people are fired up and thick headed.
Alot of really smart people have bad social skills. It doesn't mean they're bad people. I'm sure some of you may have felt ignored prior to this thread. But c'mon guys, walking in here for him is like walking into a fire pit right now, it's smart to let the fire clear, especially when there's alot of fuel left to burn, otherwise it's probably a lost cause trying to put it out. You've sure brought alot of attention, give it a chance to see results.
Just chill some, you may be further ahead. Dumping more fuel may only be procrastinating a solution, and without a solution, nobody's getting ahead.
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Posi race port or
steg stage 3
from numbers and success rate, those are the only options I would consider for my car.
If the bottom line is removing the plate turns a stage 5 or stage 5+ into a stage 4, I would do it. And I would help anyone in my area as well if they need it. We could get it done in a few hours and you can be back on the road.
steg stage 3
from numbers and success rate, those are the only options I would consider for my car.
If the bottom line is removing the plate turns a stage 5 or stage 5+ into a stage 4, I would do it. And I would help anyone in my area as well if they need it. We could get it done in a few hours and you can be back on the road.
grr...how come none of these "helpful" people live in okc...or even close?!? ugh..
...not that i have a steig blower...but it would still be nice to know i have someone around me that could help me remove my eaton to get it ported, at some point.
...eh well...hope you guys come up with a good solution for this.
...not that i have a steig blower...but it would still be nice to know i have someone around me that could help me remove my eaton to get it ported, at some point.
...eh well...hope you guys come up with a good solution for this.
Removing the torque plate from a Stage V does not make it into a Stage IV. It makes it into a Stage V without a torque plate! ;-) There are other differences between the IV and V.
Disagree with your exclusion of the Stage IV. The Stage IV is also an excellent ported blower and more folks have this port than any other by far. There has never been issues with this blower port and the majority of folks on the all time 10 second Eaton list are running the Satge IV. Steigemeier did a nice job here, just as he did with the Stage III.
Well Dwight, I haven't followed the differences of each port like you have for obvious reasons. It isn't for me. I just know when I talk to numerous people in regards to the stage 3 and the stage 5 or 5+, they all say the stage 3 was the best port. my understanding, and correct me if I am wrong, is that there wasn't a lot of change between the 3 and 4, so really, either of those can be a very good port. I made over 500 hp/tq with my stage 3 and upper only. And that has been on 3 different cobra's now making similar numbers(Scott and Mike).
so, by all means, disagree. lol I am just saying based on my personal experience and opinion and really the opinion of others, including tuners, the stage 3 was one of, if not the best port that was put out by steg. If the stage for had only minor stages to revamp the stage 3, then I would consider it just as much a viable choice as the stage 3.
so, by all means, disagree. lol I am just saying based on my personal experience and opinion and really the opinion of others, including tuners, the stage 3 was one of, if not the best port that was put out by steg. If the stage for had only minor stages to revamp the stage 3, then I would consider it just as much a viable choice as the stage 3.
Yup....this is the truth and why I posted. :beer:
no, you just like giving me a hard time.
oke:I can't wait for the snow and salt to go away so we can get these cars out and do some cruising and come up and see ya man.
Sounds to me the best solution for those that are affected right now is to remove the plate and just have a stage 5. that will end up being the cheapest option and least risk to any potential damage.
I agree. Actually the Stage V, minus the risky torque plates, is an excellent ported blower along the lines of the Stage III and IV. The question is who should bear the cost and responsibility of the plate removal???
I've been saying this over and over. Removing the plate is the easy part, but taking the time (and expense) in many cases is what this is really going to come down to - especially since these were not cheap port options when they came out!
Dwight, do you know what other differences to the port were made, beside the torque plate? I don't have a problem in keeping the plate, as long as I'm confident that it will never break again once repaired, and Steig does something to make it less painful for our trouble. Something like sending the repaired blower back with a gasket kit, giving a credit toward a Snakebite upgrade (if someone wants that), or some other offering that makes this less painful for those affected by this.
Your kidding right? This is a forum nothing to hide from. Its just words on a screen. No one has formed a lynch mob that is waiting outside his office. He has no reason to hide. If I was Bob I would rather post on the internet than have x number of people calling me a day recording the conversation waiting for me to curse at them.
The Stage V had three stated revisions over it's Stage IV predecesor: 1) Increase of 2 degrees of rotor timing, 2) Modestly raised roof, and 3) Addition of the torque plate. From strictly a performance standpoint, these modifications resulted in minimal improvements over the Stage III/IV. The original purpose of the Stage V (as I have been told....), was to give the ported Eaton the ability of achieving 500 RWHP with an upper only pulley setup.
Form the recently posted pictures of the upgraded torque plate, it certainly looks much more sunstantial than the older versions.
Thank you for listing those revisions. I wonder how he added the 2 deg. of additional rotor timing? It really bugs me that the couple of times that Bob has poked his head in here, it was just to post his ads into the threads, and not even address this problem directly, though!
Huh, rotor timing? First time i've heard of it, anyone know what that is? Will removing the torque plate mess up the timing?
Sorry fellas....I don't even want to conjecture about what 2 degrees of addtional rotor timing is or does. A group of us have tried for 2 years to get a public explanantion with no success. I do know that there are folks running around with the torque plate removed from their Stage V without any losses in performance.
I've noticed many SVTP members have this problem.
I wonder how Steg will go about handling this.
I wonder how Steg will go about handling this.
Yeah, I understand... Steig is always great at explaining things, even when asked in the most direct fashion!:rollseyes I can remember going through scores of pages in the threads preceding the release of the Snakebite (tm), where he just dodged the questions in every way possible, and just turned every thread into some sort of advertisement, without ever answering even one question!
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