Got yelled at lol
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how cute. i see people are dying to see that standup comedy. :lol1:
u must be fun at parties.
Cute, like a marine's ass on a Navy ship.
My father-in-law was greeted off the bus at MCRD by none other than Ermey himself. Dude scared the shit out of him.
He was a Vietnam Vet. Guess what his favorite movie was?
EDIT: To add my own story (except it gladly didn't happen to me), when I was in school at the Defense Mapping School in Fort Belvoir, VA for the USAF, I lived in the barracks with Navy and Marine students, surrounded by barracks full of Army trainees. So you can imagine that a bit of inter-service rivalry happens.
With that being said, everyone in my barracks had to pull firewatch, and all three services that lived in it took turns with our people.
One very cold night, at about 2AM, a USAF full-bird decided to walk through our barracks in an effort to stay warm as he walked back to his billet. What did he see? A Marine LCpl sleeping at his post!
What made it worse for the Lance was that he made the Marines look bad in front of rival service brass. I didn't get to the see the actual dress-down, but it wasn't the LCpl that got it from the Col that night...it was his Gunny. I can only imagine how many times over he paid the dress-down back to his LCpl.
Mind you, these were hopeful Recon Marines studying Cartography as a future part of their job. They almost kicked the kid out, but instead kept him and demoted him to Pvt, and severely restricted him to duties and his room only except for an hour out in the rec yard in approved sweats.
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Oh hell, in the last 30 years, been yelled at more than I can remember. :lol: Most where in my younger years.
Now as a Chief, I do the yelling. :lol: Well, honestly, I don't hardly ever yell. If I look at someone cross, they are pretty much scared (if they don't me). :lol:
Now as a Chief, I do the yelling. :lol: Well, honestly, I don't hardly ever yell. If I look at someone cross, they are pretty much scared (if they don't me). :lol:
I was going to say you forgot "no homo" but the way you phrased it leads me to believe you're on that faggy time brah :lol1:
bbuuuut buut marines on a navy ship.
lol that's a first.... not. keep grasping at straws cuzzz
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So it turns out EVERYONE got drug tested. Faith restored in my command.
Perfect example of mountains out of mole hills. Although I guess it was the media that really ran with it...
Marines on a navy ship is a first? really? better start re-writing those history books
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Lol, what a trifling whore you are. Gulp down a stinking haji ****.
Too40gawlf
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Lee Ermey was an airwing poser. Never walked a patrol in his whole life. Likes to imply he was a bad ass grunt.
Too40gawlf
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Are you ****ing serious? You think the Clinton era military was better disicpline wise than the 03-06 timeframe where even the most junior fireteam leaders had multiple combat tours?
Remember, the guys who served in OIF whre guys that literally 'closed with and destroyed' the enemy. The ferocity of the fight in Op Al Fajr (Fallujah II) was as intense as anything the Army and USMC have dealt with since Vietnam.
In the period of OIF and immediately after, every level of unit leadership had combat experience - from the team leader, squad leader, plt leader, to the company comand and up. All these guys have left or will do shortly as the new Obama military isnt for warriors, its for EO commandos and gay pride crusaders.
Of course, I bet you are some lifer SNCO that loves to hang out in garrison chasing E-3's down and yelling at them for improper hair cut and out of uniform. To you proper discipline is not wearing PT gear to the PX or not wearing white socks under your desert boots. Whereas, folks that leave the wire on a regular basis KNOW that proper discipline is reflected in the performance of an individual during contact and the proficiency in which they go about carrying out the mission.
But thats OK, your type is on the ascendency again - you can NJP folks for BS reasons to your hearts content - the wars have (are) winding down and the EOOs, SACOs, and haircut nazi's will regin supreme once more.
I have no idea on this but he is not the first one I have heard say this
don't really know if your are serious here, but just to make you aware .. having combat experience does not mean you have discipline.
right :rollseyes
ohhh I get it now... discipline only needs to be shown when OUTSIDE the wire. inside doesn't matter .. I get it ... I think you are the kind of person who he is talking about. thinks the rules doesn't or shouldn't apply to him when comfy behind the wire.
But thats OK, your type is on the ascendency again - you can NJP folks for BS reasons to your hearts content - the wars have (are) winding down and the EOOs, SACOs, and haircut nazi's will regin supreme once more.[/QUOTE]
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Yes, you're right. I certainly want to be lead by the guy that can recite the uniform regulations by heart and knows exactly the distance chevrons have to be sewn from the shoulder on every type of uniform but has exactly zero experience (and desire) in conducting a movement to contact in a combat situation. :rollseyes
Isnt it a wonder that the biggest regulation disciples are the least combast experienced guys?
Yes exactly, the type who wont/cant grasp actual operating proficiency is the type that wraps the uniform regulations around himself as a cover to mask his ineptitude at military tasks.
Discipline needs to be enforced and practiced at both garrison and in the field - peacetime and combat. But to me discipline is displayed by being physically fit, superemely profficient in your MOS, an effective leader of your subordinates. I.E. you dont fall asleep on post, you are on time to formation, you kick ass at PT, and you are where you are supposed to be in a combat situation. To me discipline is not enforced by having a loser SNCO run around the middle of the desert yelling at guys for wearing their beanie before 1700. The ones that do the latter suck at the former - almost without exception.
Basically, if you act like a pro you should be treated like one. The problem with the military is that middle aged dudes with self esteem issues and weak personalities carve out a small niche of power for themselves and soothe their internal deficiencies by righting the percieved wrongs of their subordinates.
Trust me, as an NCO, Ive thrashed my fill of young E-3's and below. But they got thrashed for things like leaving their weapons or not putting out at PT, or other 'important' things.
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while I agree with most of what you said and don't blame you for feeling the way you do in the first paragraph ... isn't part of good order and discipline being able to follow even a leader you don't like? (assuming his asshattery does not put your life in jeapordy).
this post makes you sound much better than the one I responded to by the way. Not that you should particularly care, just sayin
this post makes you sound much better than the one I responded to by the way. Not that you should particularly care, just sayin
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I am a firm believer if you can't follow the simple rules or maitain the small standards, why would I trust my life or my troop's life with you when it really matters and the shit hits the fan and you are expected to follow certain rules/conduct. But, that is just me.
Obviously from someone whose only piloted a desk and/or never left the wire. What you guys call maintaining small standards people like me that spent multiple tours getting shot at call ****ing with subordinates unnecessarily. I didn't shave everyday in Afghanistan or Iraq and wouldn't you know we got a presidential unit citation. Not changing my cammies after spilling mustard on them didn't affect my ability to patrol.
Pretty bad when someone who only made it to an E-5 sets the highest rank you can get in the AF straight. At least that's what your avatar portrays. I was glad to get away from the SNCO's because we didn't need them other than the 3 B's and they usually just wanted to play games.
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A) I can't speak for the Chief, but you don't know him or where he's been, so quit ****ing assuming shit.
B) Overseas Combat Duty and Peacetime/Domestic Duty are obviously two VERY different animals. I don't think anyone here is advocating for anyone to nitpick on grunts in the middle of a combat zone.
With that being said, if you had to choose, who would you rather have watch your back, the individual who, on friendly soil, chooses to be squared-away, or the slob in the same circumstance?
Personally, I'd rather have someone who remembers the small things around me, because I'd feel he'd be more reliable than Johnny Knoxville the next trench over. I'd feel better about the squared-away dude not forgetting the big things that matter in a life-or-death situation.
For example, the dude in this very thread who forgot his ammo. Wouldn't you think his NCOs that caught him worried about whether or not he'd do the same in combat?
I don't think they should nitpick at all. We both know most of the games are just to screw with folks. One thing we have to consider is how different branches treat people. For me, putting your hands in your pockets to keep them warm brought on a butt chewing. The AF and Army not so much.
I'll more than gladly answer your question about the ammo. I don't view it as a small thing in any environment. Boots and utes' to the PX and tucking in pt shirts are insignificant IMO.
I'll more than gladly answer your question about the ammo. I don't view it as a small thing in any environment. Boots and utes' to the PX and tucking in pt shirts are insignificant IMO.
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