LOL. The enemy is not the people of Afghanistan, it is the ~90,000 Taliban fighters comprised of 8+ different terrorist groups many of whom are insurgents from other countries.
Taliban attacking US forces
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LOL. The enemy is not the people of Afghanistan, it is the ~90,000 Taliban fighters comprised of 8+ different terrorist groups many of whom are insurgents from other countries.
Here lies the problem with the worlds view, on america and this war. true that the war is not winnable because there will always be enablers such as Johndoe000 that say its not there fault they act this way its your fault. its a problem of accountability and this is not just in Canuckville its everywhere incl the good ole US of A so to say that it is not there fault that they are trying to kill POEPLE is the same as saying the only reason poeple steal is because you dont give them your money..........Canadians=Socialists........
Please Johndoe dont insult the STUPID Americans by saying its our fault we are being attacked.
What Happened in Spain, or Russia, or Belgium all have been targets of the Terrorist Jihad and have done nothing to provoke it is there agenda to destroy everyone that is not like them........kinda like what happened in Germany.......
We are not stupid just quiet
Please Johndoe dont insult the STUPID Americans by saying its our fault we are being attacked.
What Happened in Spain, or Russia, or Belgium all have been targets of the Terrorist Jihad and have done nothing to provoke it is there agenda to destroy everyone that is not like them........kinda like what happened in Germany.......
We are not stupid just quiet
I dont fly planes into your house because I dont like your god, Theres a big difference between defending your country and countrymen and forcing an Ideal on others by thrat of death.
You better be in Korea for the Military too cause your gonna get flamed for that statement
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they sit on their asses and do camp security iv seen it first hand and the only other countries iv seen do a damn thing(patrol, offensive ops) in afghanistan are the UK,Estonians,Scotts,Aussies and the good ol' USA most of the other sit on a base or fob and do jack shit. im not trying to stir the pot im just sharing what i have seen and experienced
edit: the kunucks also brought tim hortons to KAF
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Okay guys, first off I am sorry if I have ruffled your feathers with my opinion on the current events happening all around us.
Please don't lash out at Canadians in general, as Canada and the people in its service have made a large contribution to the war in Afghanistan and to the United States in general. Also it wouldn't matter where I was from, I would still hold my views regardless. I like to consider myself a cosmopolitan, a "citizen of the world" if you will.
I also am not advocating what the taliban is doing as acceptable. Fighting an insurgent war only ends up costing lives on both sides and the longer it is drawn out the more lives are lost.
A lot of you are right in the fact that perhaps this is not the place to voice opinions on this matter, but I could not help myself as all I wanted was to facilitate an intellectual discourse. However as evidence by the mountain of flaming and insults I will not post on these touchy subjects any longer.
Please don't lash out at Canadians in general, as Canada and the people in its service have made a large contribution to the war in Afghanistan and to the United States in general. Also it wouldn't matter where I was from, I would still hold my views regardless. I like to consider myself a cosmopolitan, a "citizen of the world" if you will.
I also am not advocating what the taliban is doing as acceptable. Fighting an insurgent war only ends up costing lives on both sides and the longer it is drawn out the more lives are lost.
A lot of you are right in the fact that perhaps this is not the place to voice opinions on this matter, but I could not help myself as all I wanted was to facilitate an intellectual discourse. However as evidence by the mountain of flaming and insults I will not post on these touchy subjects any longer.
There is a lot of truth to what trickflow coupe said, so don't get carried away. From the air power side of the house and what I've experienced the UK and Aussies are bringing much more to the fight.
EDIT: Sad that some of your brave Canadian protectors have sacrificed their lives to snuff out rat bastard terrorists and you sit back with flowery views of why the global community should understand and love them. People like you make me wanna hurl.
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im not trying to flame anybody im just sharing what i have seen and i wouldnt say they have made a large contribution but yes you guys have helped out just not as much as you think you have.... i do appreciate all the help from the other countries in afghan right now but most of them dont do a damn thing but its been 2 years since i have been there so things might have changed since then
johndoe000;10252244The people portrayed in the short exerpt are just that; people said:
propoganda of the media.
the sky is falling.
forever.
the sky is falling.
forever.
Holy shit. The propaganda you spout almost sounds like one of them. :shrug:
You probably love Somali pirates too.
Please, these are Muslim extremists. They are ****ing animals. They torture & murder women and children in their Sharia courts and wage war in the form of terrorists attacks from India, London to right here at home killing thousands in the name of "Allah".
Their religion of "peace" involves murder and torture. Nothing has been perpetuated by anyone.
Murder in the name of religion has happened for centuries, but these are the only barbarians left condoning it. I saw a video of hundreds of Muslims torturing and murdering a 13 year old girl convicted in Sharia court.
Convicted of what you ask? Not wanting to marry some 60+ year old man she was arranged to marry. This isn't random acts of violence, this is a HUGE population of people that condone this type of behavior. How much blood has to be shed before you're convinced a war must be fought?
These people are evil with absolutely nothing to lose. They will murder their own families if they go against "Allah". Don't go after them and let them be and they will bring a ****ing nuclear bomb in this country or another.
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This is my thought. Either way, i think it is important for us to understand the enemy. This is a great way to understand how the think and operate. Insightful really. Hopefully they get some videos of the recieving end of a MQ9 in this documentary. That would be cool.
Have you all guys considered that 9/11 was not Taliban attack and only some acts used to manipulate people and get their support to go to war based on fear?
I am not saying the above is 100% true, but have you considered it?
What would "War of Terror" represent?
I am not saying the above is 100% true, but have you considered it?
What would "War of Terror" represent?
Here is a list of attacks committed in the last 2 months.
Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time
Here is another short list from 1968 and up.
Chronological List of Islamic Terrorist Attacks, 1968 - 2004
There is no conspiracy theory against the Taliban. They will murder millions if given the opportunity. No one has to perpetuate anything. They will carry out an attack, come right out and take responsibility, then justify it in the name of their religion.
^Agreed. My cousin (Marine) and I (Air Force) were in Afghanistan at the same time last year, he was sent outside Kandahar to try and finish what the UK started but didn't succeed at. And that's not a knock at the UK, just saying it's terrible over there.
You do realize that in Afghanistan we are fighting the Taliban...and take a guess which group setup training facilities and did the training of the terrorists that did fly those planes?? OH WAIT....THE TALIBAN
Therefore his THEY was pointing the finger at the Taliban (who was portrayed in the video) not all people of Afghanistan. Come on man, watch the news, read a book or something....the Taliban is comprised of many different nationalities...but where do the majority of these groups live? You got it...Afghanistan.
And by the sound of Johndoe's attitude he sounds like he's a French-Canadian
We have to find a diplomatic solution to the war on terror because for every terrorist you kill you create a few more.
You know as in Ahmed is sitting in his bedroom listening to bootleg Metallica tapes when his parents come in and tell him his older brother and friends that joined up in some radical group got themselves killed by US soldiers for throwing molotovs at their humvees. Ahmed doesn't give a damn about his bros religious ideals all he knows is that soldiers killed him. Little Ahmed then learns how to build IEDs so he can blow up a humvee full of soldiers as it passes by. John who was riding in that humvee is critically injured and his brother Billy then curses those damn "towel heads" and enlists so he can get revenge for brother and so the cycle continues.
You know as in Ahmed is sitting in his bedroom listening to bootleg Metallica tapes when his parents come in and tell him his older brother and friends that joined up in some radical group got themselves killed by US soldiers for throwing molotovs at their humvees. Ahmed doesn't give a damn about his bros religious ideals all he knows is that soldiers killed him. Little Ahmed then learns how to build IEDs so he can blow up a humvee full of soldiers as it passes by. John who was riding in that humvee is critically injured and his brother Billy then curses those damn "towel heads" and enlists so he can get revenge for brother and so the cycle continues.
I got confused when I read johndoe's post. Is this a war with terrorists (like Taliban and other org.) or with afghan people? Is someone taking over this country or trying to help? Check this vid and tell me what's going on
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlPHBh8_UKA"]YouTube - Lithuania and NATO in Afghanistan[/nomedia]
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlPHBh8_UKA"]YouTube - Lithuania and NATO in Afghanistan[/nomedia]
ahhh yes, and going over there and slaying them is going to change their belief system... right....
i cant believe people are trying to crucify johndoe here.... he brings up some good points. its all a matter of perspective, yes the taliban are evil and horribe to us, but to them all they know is we show up and kill people, maybe to them we are the monsters. im not against or for the war but i can say we as citizens do not know all the facts and its important to question any information we are being fed, from both critics and supporters of the war. it seems alot of people here are just the "Amurrika iz da best and everybody else iz one of dem iraqqqui turrurist" kind of people and are just posting against johndoe because he didnt feel the same as you. in a way that make you very much the same as the terrorists that you hate.
Some of you individuals need to educate yourselves on Canada's involvement in the "War on Terror". Although i spent only 7 months in Afghanistan, I had seen enough shit to last me a lifetime. As for doing security "INSIDE the WIRE"....ya right. I spent a total of 23 days "Inside the wire". Yes Canadians do have individuals that are soley responsible for Camp and FOB security, but so do other nations. And for anyone that disagree's with that better take a hard look at all individuals involved with the Coalition to really see whats going on. I for one have been involved in several ambushes, Rocket attacks and IED strikes. 1 of these strikes was against my very own LAV, which killed several of the guys in my section. It makes me sick to see the ignorance of the few that think the Americans are the only ones who have done anything during this past 9 years......Yes the US does have 10's of thousands of troops on the ground, i get that. but think in relation to how many people live in the US. Canada has roughly 3500-4500 troops in theater at any given time, but we are also a Forces of 80,000 strong. Thats the Army, Navy and Air Force combined.
Sorry for the rant, but I know the sacrifices I have made and it pains me to see the ignorance of the few that clearly just don't understand.
And another thing, before you tell someone to "Educate themselves" you should do a little reading yourself, walk a mile in a set of Combat boots and have your nerves on edge 24/7 waiting for the next whistle past your ear or explosion going off in the distance. I can tell you it is not the grandest of feelings.
Sorry for the rant, but I know the sacrifices I have made and it pains me to see the ignorance of the few that clearly just don't understand.
And another thing, before you tell someone to "Educate themselves" you should do a little reading yourself, walk a mile in a set of Combat boots and have your nerves on edge 24/7 waiting for the next whistle past your ear or explosion going off in the distance. I can tell you it is not the grandest of feelings.
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