Procharger vs. Turbo

[HellionCobra]

www.hellionpowersystems.com

and

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176353

here you go.

Nate

 

[Cobrastruk04]

www.hellionpowersystems.com

and

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176353

here you go.

Nate

go with Hellion, thats what i did.Im ordering my Kit from them as soon as John finishes the Dyno runs. I might order my T66 ahead of the kit so Turbonetics can start building it. :thumbsup: Sweet ride Nate! i cant believe you put down 808 at the wheels :beer:
Devon

 

[dfw99cobra]

I'm gonna have to definately look into it. Those numbers were very impressive and for the power goals I'm looking for I don't know if there's a substitute.

 

[stangfreak]

eh this thread is still poppin eh lol

turbo OWNS!!!!!!!!!!!!! ok thats it

 

[dfw99cobra]

go with Hellion, thats what i did.Im ordering my Kit from them as soon as John finishes the Dyno runs. I might order my T66 ahead of the kit so Turbonetics can start building it. :thumbsup: Sweet ride Nate! i cant believe you put down 808 at the wheels :beer:
Devon

There was a mention about Hellion using stock manifolds in a single turbo thread in the "new edge cobra" section. See link. (See page 1 post #14 - whatever) Anyone have any insight on stock manifolds for me (the uninformed)?

 

[LtDan]

Hellion (John & Steve Urist) as well as a few I've spoken to that have the kit say that the stock manifold is adequate for the 62mm base kit. Obviously, headers would unlock some hp, and you want reduce backpressure wherever possible. Go with ceramic shorty headers, as underhood temps will rise with the installation of any turbo. A good heat extracting hood was also some advice passed on to me.

I passed up Hellion after much research to go with Turbo Performance Systems (www.boostedsystems.com) kit and a hybrid turbo (www.extremeturbo.com) as their kit will work with my MM K-member and comes with headers & a chip for less $$$ than Hellion.

 

[longrodLX]

yeah i would go with joe's kit(boostedsystems.com) his kit looks great and is an awesome deal. the hellion kit price needs to come down considering there is less fabrication involved and you get less with the kit.

Turbos>anything

 

[lukoi]

You know I've learned more on this thread than any other about car modification, lol. Great thread.

Does anyone sell a turbo worth seriously considering for the 05 Stang yet however?? I can't find much

 

[longrodLX]

modularmustangracing.com has a kit for the 05

 

[LTHL SVT]

http://www.turbomustangs.com/turbokitpage.php

Try that page i was intrested about it one day and i looked in there alot of resource info and places where you can buy kits and get them installed check it out

 

[2000_LS1]

of course there reliable. the only thing is, turbos require alot of plumbing and work. technically, the more parts you have, the chances of something going wrong increases. but turbos are very reliable.


look at all the mack trucks, volvo trucks ud, kentworth that haul freight state to state. there all turbo.

Train engine are too...though you'd want to know. lol

 

[boosted98gt]

of course there reliable. the only thing is, turbos require alot of plumbing and work. technically, the more parts you have, the chances of something going wrong increases. but turbos are very reliable.


look at all the mack trucks, volvo trucks ud, kentworth that haul freight state to state. there all turbo.

Speaking of which, I work for Mack and Volvo, their turbo's are expected to last 1,000,000 miles at a minimum. Yes that is a lot of zeros. Their turbos look no more complicated than your average turbo. (With the exception of our VGT turbo, but that's another discussion.) Proper maintenance goes a long way...

 

[stangfreak]

Speaking of which, I work for Mack and Volvo, their turbo's are expected to last 1,000,000 miles at a minimum. Yes that is a lot of zeros. Their turbos look no more complicated than your average turbo. (With the exception of our VGT turbo, but that's another discussion.) Proper maintenance goes a long way...

cool i work for my cousins mack dealership as well. our main sales is mach, but we have like 8 other different vendors. very very high volume dealership, open 24hrs and one of the biggest in the country.

 

[boosted98gt]

cool i work for my cousins mack dealership as well. our main sales is mach, but we have like 8 other different vendors. very very high volume dealership, open 24hrs and one of the biggest in the country.

Good to hear! What do you think of Volvo buying MACK? Volvo is now the world's largest heavy duty diesel engine manufacturer w/ 20% of the market share. Shoot me a PM if you'd like, it's always good to hear from someone involved in moving the product! :rockon:

 

[Fast04SVT]

go turbo if u want to win top end races and both lag pretty good. Plus major belt slippage with the procharger. and if u hate turbo lag put a lil 50 shot and it will take care of that lag. the KB and whipples are better than procharges b/c they boost superfast. so, its all up to you man

 

[dfw99cobra]

go turbo if u want to win top end races and both lag pretty good. Plus major belt slippage with the procharger. and if u hate turbo lag put a lil 50 shot and it will take care of that lag. the KB and whipples are better than procharges b/c they boost superfast. so, its all up to you man

Is lag as bad on a twin turbo setup? I'm thinking about going twin turbo on the mach, but I've always heard single is better. I'd be paying about the same amount for twin 57's as I would for a single t76. I was just curious.

 

[boosted98gt]

Is lag as bad on a twin turbo setup? I'm thinking about going twin turbo on the mach, but I've always heard single is better. I'd be paying about the same amount for twin 57's as I would for a single t76. I was just curious.

Twins spool a few hundred RPM sooner, but there is a slight weight penalty.

 

[dfw99cobra]

Twins spool a few hundred RPM sooner, but there is a slight weight penalty.

Cool thanks

 

[longrodLX]

lag with a twin setup will be virtually un noticable. now with a single kit they will spool up about a thousand rpm later unless you have a ball bearing setup which will spool up a few hundred rpms quicker than a non ball bearing turbo

 

[cKjuiced]

I'm still looking into it. The only company I know of that makes them is Livernois Motorsports. I hadn't heard of any other options other than porting the stock heads but I didn't know if that would be good enough for the HP level I'm going for. If you have any recommendations let me know.

I've seen radical numbers with:

http://www.patriot-performance.com/waterNew/default.asp?x=1&DID=1225

and

http://www.vtengines.com/

Patriot heads make great numbers with most custom grind cams.

VT engines has a wonderful head and combo set.

I've seen both of these combos make as much as 107rwhp.