on my $70,000 truck I traded in 2 cars my 98 cobra and my 2009 envoy denali, so that gave me $26000 down but went with the 72 months so I could add more to the Raptor that I wanted and I get a little breathing room, anyhow we do pay off the cars when we can a head of time, but still my payment is $622 a month. That is still huge payment with $26,000 down, after I get it fixed I owe $13,000 on my Raptor and it is worth about $46,000 so I am not upside down.