HAHAHAHA...I got a good laugh out of all of that. :-D03 DSG Snake said:
Big Brakes - Who's done 'em.
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exact same setup as LargeOrangeFont, except the fr500s LOL
03 DSG Snake said:
so your saying I'm wrong as well as Shelbyguy and Jimmysidecar?
http://www.maximummotorsports.com/brembo.asp
and your saying MM is wrong check you info before you post.
you need a 50 mm clearance for the larger caliper which only fits a selected few 17 in rims. If you go to a 14 in rotor then you must go 18 in rims. The 03/04 cobra and R have the same caliper mounting braket just 2 bolts but I guess you'd know that if you ever worked on your brakes.
For those with the 00 R brakes, how much better do your brakes feel? Were they worth it or do you wish you went with bigger brakes?
Mike K said:
It is so much better it is stupid. I just got home from a spirited driving session with a friend, and he couldn't shut up about how good the brakes felt.
I may go to 14inch rotors to fill out the wheel a little bit more (lots of AMG Benzes, BMW Ms, Lambos and Ferarris where I live) and have more stoplight cred. They definately aren't needed though.
You could probably get by w\ good pads and SS lines with the stock calipers. The Brembos are more consistent, and have better modulation. They were totally worth it.
Ashley
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Wizardrex said:
Maybe read the post where I corrected my mistake?
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LargeOrangeFont said:
I dont want to just get by, i want to know my brakes are up to the task
Now the 00R kit is a 13" kit (same size we have on our car) but there have been serveral reverances to a 13" kit and a 14" kit. Can you get the 00R kit with an upgraded 14" disk and appropriate caliper bracket? If so does anybody know where i can get this, i would be more interested in the 14" kit. I plan on getting 18" rims anyway so the clearance shouldn't be a problem.
-Mike
I have the Wilwood SL6 front kit with hard lines and Kenny Brown cooling hardware. I kept the rear calipers but upgraded the rotors to match the front wilwood slotted two piece with alluminum hat, and also pads to match front, with hard lines from Kenny Brown. I can't remember what the pads are called but willwood offers 4 levels for the mustang kit and I use level 3. I also bled every drop of stock fluid out and replaced with wilwood 600. This setup has proven very effective on the track and very durable. It squeaks on the street with not enough heat to keep pads in operating range. I have gotten used to that however and view it as "racey", like a nice exhaust note.
03 DSG Snake said:Maybe read the post where I corrected my mistake?
I did.
03 DSG Snake said:
Read mine, 14 inch rotors don't fit on 17 inch rims. You said they do fit, while you believed they were 14 inch rotors. Then in a backfired attempt to make people think you are not totally incompetent, you post the above. As far as the finger, we are simply trying to educate you as your postings seemingly cry out for. The 00r brake kit for all intended purposes is a bolt on. May I also bring it to your attention that you are 24 now. Why are you bringing your mother into this?
Wizardrex said:
Probably because I am familiar with both my parents cars jackass? :loser:
Mike K said:I dont want to just get by, i want to know my brakes are up to the task
Now the 00R kit is a 13" kit (same size we have on our car) but there have been serveral reverances to a 13" kit and a 14" kit. Can you get the 00R kit with an upgraded 14" disk and appropriate caliper bracket? If so does anybody know where i can get this, i would be more interested in the 14" kit. I plan on getting 18" rims anyway so the clearance shouldn't be a problem.
-Mike
There are no optional 14 in rotor Cobra R kits. They all come with 13 in rotors either plain, slotted, or drilled. The $2500 Brembo kit for the car had the 6 piston calipers and the 14in rotors. No, those rotors probably won't work with the Cobra R calipers, as they are too thick.
The good news is that you can get a 14 in 2 piece rotor that will fit by purchasing them seperately. The Baer Eradispeeds will NOT work. I believe ShelbyGuy has 14s on his car with the Cobra R caliper. I will search and post what brand they are and where he got them.
Ashley
If you get this in time... that really wont be necessary. I am just trying to find a 14" kit that will fit in the 18" CCW 505A rim. The Stop-Tech 355mm kit will not, I sent the brake dimensions to CCW and they were pretty sure the kit would not fit. I will hop on Brembo's website to get similar information to send to them.LargeOrangeFont said:
Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions though.
-Mike
Mike K said:
Your only option may be Cobra R calipers and 14 inch rotors. Anything else is even larger in physical size and wont fit behind a wheel with any kind of lip. If the Stoptech kit wont fit, the Brembo Monoblock calipers probably won't fit either.
Also, don't forget tires. That is the most important compinent of your brake system. I felt dramatic gains in stopping power when I switched from the crappy OEM F1 GS to the Kumho MX. I am really seeing how good the Cobra R kit is now. With the stock tires I felt only marginal gains because I was outbraking the tires.
Ashley
Ashley
The Baer Eradispeed + (2 piece) rotors will not fit with the Cobra R calipers and stock wheels?
baer eradispeed two piece rotors do not fit the 00r brembos. the hat is too large in diameter.
i use a 13" rotor from a coleman racing blank and i use a brake hat from tce. its a fixed setup, not a floater. a floating rotor would probably drive me nuts on the street. they can be pretty noisy. i use nas (aerospace) hardware to bolt them together. no holes, no slots. i just get them balanced and stress relieved.
my total setup is:
braided brake hoses on all four corners
00r brake cooling ducts and the cheaper black hose. the expensive orange stuff isnt needed.
00r calipers. for the street i use the stock galpher pads (ford racing #m-2001-x). for parking lot autocrosses, single flying lap time attacks, and small tracks like blackhawk farms, i use the ferodo ds2500 pad. for bigger tracks i use hawk blues.
on the rear i use hps pads unless i have the hawk blues up front in which case i run hp+. i might step up to ht10 fronts and hawk black rears this year for road america and v.i.r.
i use the regular ford brake fluid in the red and white plastic bottle. i bleed after every event, and sometimes even before.
this is definately a trouble free combination for the track.
i change my rotors out every 2nd set of pads. i saw a corvette grenade a rotor at road america coming into turn 5. it was bad. i've yet to crack a rotor (i mean beyond the usual heat checking)
i use a 13" rotor from a coleman racing blank and i use a brake hat from tce. its a fixed setup, not a floater. a floating rotor would probably drive me nuts on the street. they can be pretty noisy. i use nas (aerospace) hardware to bolt them together. no holes, no slots. i just get them balanced and stress relieved.
my total setup is:
braided brake hoses on all four corners
00r brake cooling ducts and the cheaper black hose. the expensive orange stuff isnt needed.
00r calipers. for the street i use the stock galpher pads (ford racing #m-2001-x). for parking lot autocrosses, single flying lap time attacks, and small tracks like blackhawk farms, i use the ferodo ds2500 pad. for bigger tracks i use hawk blues.
on the rear i use hps pads unless i have the hawk blues up front in which case i run hp+. i might step up to ht10 fronts and hawk black rears this year for road america and v.i.r.
i use the regular ford brake fluid in the red and white plastic bottle. i bleed after every event, and sometimes even before.
this is definately a trouble free combination for the track.
i change my rotors out every 2nd set of pads. i saw a corvette grenade a rotor at road america coming into turn 5. it was bad. i've yet to crack a rotor (i mean beyond the usual heat checking)
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