Bama v2 tune

[AMAlexLazarus]

I just ordered a v2 tune its free. I may like I may not like no loss for me

We're anxious to hear what you think of the new V2 tunes. I'm sure that you'll be happy with the latest tunes Bama offers. If you want, shoot me over your order number via PM and I'll make sure they get pushed through and back to you as quickly as possible! Can't wait to hear what you think...

I have no experience with BAMA, but they did just get a bunch of new tuners. They will even tune blowers and E85 now. From the little I've gathered, their new tunes are much better than the old ones.

Bama did completely revamp their tuning process including new tuners and a new Lead Calibrator who has been tuning for over a decade. Some of the tuners on the Bama have been here since 2009 and are definitely very experienced with tuning Mustangs after doing it everyday for 6 years. The new E85 tuning and supercharger tuning is just the tip of the iceberg. The Bama team is doing alot of great work these days on the track, on the street and on the dyno. They've got 2 different dynos that they use to dial things in with precision. Check out more about their tuning process over on their website: http://www.bamaperformance.com

They're building fast cars, tuning crazy combinations, experimenting with fuels from E85 and C16 all the way to FTW Purple and more. They're pretty legit these days...

Thats what I also plan on doing. Datalogging the new bama tunes and see how they stack up with the old tune datalogs and other tunes.

Bama absolutely encourages their customers to datalog. They can datalog the new V2 tunes and send the results to the Bama team who will break down everything that's happening and show the customer how safe and accurate the tune is as well as help them with any tweaks that can be had for improved performance, driveability, etc. This is how the Bama team is going to prove that their new tunes are the leading tunes out there for these Coyote Mustangs.

Thanks scott I'll be calling lund in the morning. I looked at their website not much detail but i see a lot of high hp cars with lund racing on them. I don't have high hp actually almost stock but might as well get a good tune. How does it plug to your car? Is it a handheld or gotta use the laptop to hook to the car? I don't know anything about tuners and sorry to highjack the thread but i was looking at ordering the bama tune tomorrow from americanmuscle.

Would you be willing to try a tune for free?

Shoot me over a PM. We have no problem with sending you a tune to try out. All we ask is that you post back here in this thread with your honest opinion and full breakdown of the tune. If you love it or hate it, that's fine - we just want a chance to get the product out to people and put it up on the chopping block. It's a brave move, but we're 100% confident that Bama's new tunes are going to make customers really love driving their Mustangs and that there isn't a competing tune on the market that will "blow it away" like claimed on forums with no experience.

Let me know and I'll get you all set up!

I'm up to see how much better the new tune is and will do so because i am Bama tuned already so no money out of my pocket yet. I like the fact they are now tuning for E85 and that was one of my big reasons for looking to switch. So the theories and nothing to back it up besides people liking big Names that are on here are no different then the people reading magazines.

Thanks for giving Bama a try Derrick! I think you'll be really surprised. Bama is willing to put their money where their mouth is and show that the new V2 tunes are as good as anything else out there. We're running them in all of our Mustangs and we've been doing some pretty crazy stuff with them because of Bama. From a 9-second 2015 GT to a 709RWHP 2013 GT500 going 10-seconds to a 700-800RWHP Terminator Cobra - Bama's been killing it over the last 9 months or so!

Let us know what you think of the new tunes!

Alex

P.S. Here are some videos of what Bama's been up to over the past 9 months or so:

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[video=youtube;dG_mRS0mkkQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG_mRS0mkkQ[/video]
[video=youtube;4pBOCz5OtFk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pBOCz5OtFk[/video]
[video=youtube;XQjXkEJlmaY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQjXkEJlmaY[/video]
[video=youtube;UhEbzYMSo28]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhEbzYMSo28[/video]
[video=youtube;S8AawLcv2Xk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8AawLcv2Xk[/video]
[video=youtube;tSXDOIMSoXk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSXDOIMSoXk[/video]

 

[AMAlexLazarus]

I'd be willing to give the new team a shot at tuning my setup. I'd like to see how it would compare to my VMP tune. I also have a JDM, Roush, and Mike Rousch tune for this setup. I would be willing to share my unbiased opinion with everyone, comparing them all. What do you think, AM? I am only a few hours drive away.

I like that idea keep us up to date

I like the idea of a non-biased comparison, but I doubt they are gonna offer to do it for free, especially when it might not go their way.

I hear that. And the more I think about it, all of my other tunes are remote street tunes. It's really not fair to compare it to a dyno tune. Plus, I'm sure more power is on the table running it closer to the edge. I'm not sure I'd feel too great running more aggressive timing / leaner afr. Either way though, I'd like to hear from BAMA / AM.

WOT performance wont vary much between tuners assuming basic bolt on car. There are only so many parameters that can be manipulated and there is no magic. That's not to say that some hack job wont blow your motor up because its possible, but WOT tuning is easier to get right than low speed drivability.

I had a Bama tune for a short time and the car ran great. They didn't tune blowers when I ran their tune so when I upgraded to boost I went Lund and have been nothing but impressed. good luck

We have tried doing this and it always falls through. We would LOVE a shot to prove that Bama's tunes are up to par with any of the competitors out there. I've even tried saying if Bama loses, we'll buy an entire thread pizza. I'd be willing to do this again in this post.

So here's the deal - Bama isn't looking to start a war, they just want to prove that their tunes are as good as anything else out there. We have no problem providing our tune to someone and they can either meet us at a third-party/unbiased dyno so that everyone can witness the test or they can come here and do it on either of the Bama dynos and witness the test to make sure nothing funny is going on. I don't want to know who the competitors tunes are and we're not going to mention them. This is simply, Tune A, B, C, etc. and Bama's tune. If Bama loses, everyone in this thread (up until now, not after this post) gets a pizza on me. If Bama wins, we prove that their new tunes are what we say they are.

This would have to be conducted in a fair manner, so if the tune was datalogged and revised - Bama gets a chance to do the same. If it's a dyno tune, Bama gets to dyno tune it first and then compare against the previous dyno tune. Mail-order vs. mail-order, etc. Just so we're comparing apples to apples.

Anyone who is within an hour or two of Philadelphia, PA and is willing to meet us at a dyno or at the track or even come to our HQ and do this test, PM me!

Alex

 

[AMAlexLazarus]

I think the main guy behind the tuning right now at Bama is Paul Meister who was an owner/tuner for Torq and also was a tuner for Steeda...both for many years.

I don't have a Bama tune, but I have to believe the tunes are much improved over what they were putting out prior to Paul joining the group. They are currently doing great things with the 2015 platform.

Need4Speed03,

That’s correct. Paul has been with Bama Performance for quite some time now and he’s very well known in the aftermarket tuning community for making some serious numbers. He’s one of the main reasons that Bama’s entire line up is being overhauled and given the feedback that we along with the Bama Team has been receiving it’s safe to say that the V2 Tunes are really some of their best work yet.

The new Bama tunes arent even relatively close to what that whack job Mike Wilson was doing. Paul owned Torq and worked at Steeda for a while and has the knowledge to tune successfully. Dont hestitate on the V2 tunes, and the people badmouthing them also have no experience with the V2 set of tunes.

Blxcklist,

Thanks for your feedback and support here! I can’t stress enough the night and day difference that Coyote owners are experiencing from their previous tunes to the V2’s. The driveability is something that I want customers to focus on as it’s been exponentially improved upon. I really encourage anyone that’s running an X4 to get the V2’s and see the light!

Yeah I used Paul/Torq for a long time in my previous cars and sent him many customers. I still talk to him very often and he's definitely a very knowledgeable and capable tuner.

I wouldn't hesitate to use him for my current setup if I weren't so close to TSS

D98GT,

Thanks for posting this up! He’s a beast when it comes to making horsepower. I get to work with him on a daily basis and when he’s not scaring the crap out of me in one of their builds, I’m getting a chance to watch him either on the dyno, at the track or simply dialing everything in on the streets. He's always telling me to hop in and test out a new automatic shift pattern or take a car home for the weekend and let me know what I think of the tune changes.

Thanks for the kind words about Paul!

Alex

 

[AMAlexLazarus]

The issue isn't so much that all Bama tunes are garbage but rather, the quality control is poor. I've heard from knowledgeable people that their tunes run fun and a pull on a load bearing dyno shows all is well. Then again, I've also seen tunes that are retarded from Bama.

It's split 50/50 on people saying they like their Bama tune and others saying it's complete shit. The thing is though; some people that like their Bama tune don't know better and experience a placebo effect. Having a rapid throttle response gives the impression of significant power gain... On the other hand, Bama gets trashed because who doesn't like jumping onto a hate bandwagon?

The Bama inconsistency of quality drove me to Lund. Wasn't gonna waste my time with datalogging with Bama for a CHANCE that my tune would be one of the good ones. You get what you pay for.

Kevin,

Thanks for the post and it's a very fair point. In the past, Bama has had issues with inconsistency and that's what the new V2 tunes address. The Bama team worked hard on completely revamping themselves from the inside out and over the past 9 months have completely transformed. They've been trained and certified by the best. They're using 2 different dynos for multiple types of testing. They're at the track almost bi-weekly. They're on the street everyday datalogging and refining. They've got full access to our warehouse and stable of Mustangs that they've been developing consistent and powerful custom tunes for everything from a stock Mustang to E85 and different fuels, power adders and more. The Bama today is a completely different Bama than they were a year ago.

I am positive that if we send you out a new tune, you'll love it. Just shoot me a PM and I'll get one on the way. Not only that, but I think that if we're able to get a handful of members in this thread to try out the new V2 tunes, you'll see consistent positive results across the board.

Thanks for the fair and level-headed post. I completely agree with it.

You don't need a dyno tune.

AED, Lund, VMP, and MAP would be a few tuners that you could go with. Just do some research on all and then contact them with any questions/concerns and go from there.

The thing about Bama is they are the kings of marketing. Large magazines adds and a number of guys on the forums that are just trying to sell you a boat load of nothing does not equal a good tune. Have they gotten better with their new tuner? Anything is possible. But they have gone through a slew of different tuners over the last few years. Food for thought.

1.) Bama has had 2 tuners in 5 years. That's a small "slew".

2.) Forget marketing for a minute. We're in here right now saying that we'll meet members of a message board at a 3rd party dyno and blindly put Bama's product up against unknown competitors on a machine designed to measure the benefit of the product Bama sells.

Is that really marketing or is it proof in the pudding?

And if a dyno isn't what you think is the best way to do this, then when the weather breaks we'll meet at a track and do the test down the 1320'.

Get a custom tune for your car through data logging or dyno tuning. I use AED, and there are several others that will do tunes through data logging so that you don't have to go to a dyno.

Bama 100% recommends that you datalog and hundreds of their customers do every day. They are constantly on the phone with customers explaining what the numbers mean, showing them that the tune is safe and performing well and if there are tweaks or areas for improvement they point them out and fix them too.

To me, new tuners, spells inexperience. honestly if there are tuners out there available that have a proven track record of great reliable tunes, why are people willing to play russian roulette with "new tuners at Bama"?

"New tuners" doesn't necessarily mean new to tuning, but new to Bama. Even at that, these guys are fully certified and go through a pretty intense training process. We've had some of the best EFI calibrators in the world here to train and educate these guys hands-on the dyno. As a matter of fact, just this past weekend on Sunday there was a full-day boot-camp just to refresh and keep their team's game up to par. Bama's Lead Calibrator has a track record well over a decade and our results (check my last 3-4 posts) with Bama's support over the past 9 months or so have proven that these guys know their stuff!

I would be 100% weary of inexperience from the outside looking in. The best thing you can do is head to their website and check out more about them, read their FAQ and then call and chat with the guys to get comfortable with their level of knowledge. http://www.BamaPerformance.com

To me, I don’t care how much they have “improved” or whether or not new staffing has helped them to become better tuners. Do some research and see what people have said and what they’ve experienced with Bama overall. I like American muscle for their service and speedy delivery. I do wish they would carry more parts and maybe even more hardcore racing parts in general but BAMA has been garbage since day one. Excuses are endless with them. Check out Evolution Performance and book an appointment with them. They use Lund for they’re tuning anyway and nothing beats live dyne tuning. On a side note...look at what American Muscle and BAMA did with their 2015 project stang...they bite off of and copied Evolution Performance by being “first” in the 12,11,10, 9’s etc. Like I’ve always said in any other situation on this forum, it’s not my money to spend. Happy building!

What hardcore racing parts are we missing on AM? We have Racestars, Slicks/Skinnies, Injector Dynamics, Weld Wheels, Superchargers, Turbo Kits, Fuel Systems, Long Tube Headers, Roll Cages, Full Crate Engines, Big Brake Kits, Carbon Fiber Driveshafts, LSD's and Rear Components, Helmets and Racing Equipment all the way down to Go Pros!

Let us know what we're missing so we can get it added!

In terms of us copying other shops for being the first to hit a series of times - that's just because it's what we did? Anyone who was the first to go that fast would have done the same thing - we weren't even thinking of anyone else except for getting the car to the track ASAP since we knew there were alot of people racing to go that fast. Saying we took inspiration from someone else isn't correct, but saying that we did the same thing with a different year/model so it sounds the same way is correct.

That's like saying Emmitt Smith copied Walter Payton because Emmitt Smith has the most rushing yards in history, but Walter Payton did it before him for a different team in a different decade.

Regarding the 15's...Have you seen the Ford .99 challenge? Ford was the first in the 12's with the ecoboost, first in the 11's NA, and first in the 10's supercharged...this was before the cars were even in the hands of the public...do a google search and watch the video. So did Ford "bite off and copy" Evo? Lol

Anytime a new model hits the streets tuner shops are rushing to bring product to the market and most want to the the first to break barriers and set records. It's a cycle we see with all new models.

This! ^

Nope, I would never waste my time actually. My coworker purchased a cold air intake set up and had one of their tunes on his 2011 GT. Upon cold starts in the fall (Northern NJ) the motor would surge for about five minutes or less. He would also get a check engine light every now and then for a miss fire. Very weird but was a reality for him. He ended up getting a boss intake manifold and full exhaust from American Muscle. Made an appointment with Evolution performance for a dyno tune and couldn’t be happier. Listen, I’m not a fan of BAMA. If it works for you or for anyone else, more power to you. There are horror stories from any builder and/or shop, tuner...but when you start seeing consistent complaints or negative trends, well then you need to start asking questions.

Would you be willing to take us up on the challenge I posted a post or two back? You can meet us at a third party dyno or come here to our HQ and we'll put the Bama tune up against whatever you're running (we don't even want to know!).

Let me know!

Alex

 

[rz5.0]

What about the sn95.. i had a bama tune on my hci 95gt wasn't to impressed .. have you guys improved on those also... was thinking about getting a tune for my 98 cobra. ..

 

[Just_A_GT]

Given the way this thread has played out, Bama is back in the running for which tune I go with this spring...Lund or Bama.

I know the Bama bashers will say go with Lund, but all the evidence says Bama has really stepped their game up with the v2s..and the tune is cheaper than Lund.

 

[AMAlexLazarus]

What about the sn95.. i had a bama tune on my hci 95gt wasn't to impressed .. have you guys improved on those also... was thinking about getting a tune for my 98 cobra. ..

rz5.0 - Bama absolutely has love for their SN95 customers as well as their V6 customers and everywhere in between - They're in the process of overhauling literally all of their tunes in order to have V2's across the board but if you're still unsure I'm happy to get you set up with one of the Bama Tuning Specialists if you'd like just shoot me a PM or give them a call and let them know that you we're working with Alex!

Given the way this thread has played out, Bama is back in the running for which tune I go with this spring...Lund or Bama.

I know the Bama bashers will say go with Lund, but all the evidence says Bama has really stepped their game up with the v2s..and the tune is cheaper than Lund.

Just_A_GT - I really think that you're going to be pleasantly surprised and I definitely encourage you to get set up! I'd love to get some feedback from you as well after the fact.

Alex

 

[Just_A_GT]

Just_A_GT - I really think that you're going to be pleasantly surprised and I definitely encourage you to get set up! I'd love to get some feedback from you as well after the fact.

Alex

Do I get in on the free pizza deal? haha :shrug:

 

[rz5.0]

rz5.0 - Bama absolutely has love for their SN95 customers as well as their V6 customers and everywhere in between - They're in the process of overhauling literally all of their tunes in order to have V2's across the board but if you're still unsure I'm happy to get you set up with one of the Bama Tuning Specialists if you'd like just shoot me a PM or give them a call and let them know that you we're working with Alex!




Just_A_GT - I really think that you're going to be pleasantly surprised and I definitely encourage you to get set up! I'd love to get some feedback from you as well after the fact.

Alex

Well my 95 is down for a unknown about of time. . I'll get back to you on my 98 cobra. . As it's in need of a new tune. .

 

[Need4Speed03]

Damn, Alex has been working overtime in this thread! Good job!

 

[BTS]

Hmmmmmmmm Bama is back on my list

 

[silverbullit02]

Well I don't get pizza but i did shoot you a pm after reading this thread hopefully they are putting the screws to some stuff here. I would like to make sure I can beat some of the other big name guys cars around here.

 

[derricksmustang]

We will see come spring or when it decides to warm up how much better the V2 is I've already posted my best ET so far not dyno numbers because I like some others don't care about that let's see what it does at the track and performance on the street. 12.3 113 with old bama tune no data log typical bolt ons CAI, OR X GT500 axle back.

 

[derricksmustang]

The 12.3 was a 1 time thing it's other passes equaled out to be a 12.5 average

 

[cobrakip1]

I run bama tunes on my 11' GB and it runs great. The old stuff wasn't the greatest but the tuners they have now and the work they do today is just as good as the rest.

 

[stang99x]

I have the Bama tunes and at first, I was a bit unimpressed. Granted I don't have much in the way of mods on the car as of now, but I expected at least a little butt dyno performance. I decided to PM Alex and ask him about it, as he seems quite the fair and helpful guy. The last two hand held tuners I had were a Predator for my SRT8, and an Xcal3 for my blown Navigator so I have some experience using the tuners. On Alex's recommendation, I updated the X4 with the latest firmware/software updates and reloaded the tune. After the updates, it was like I had a new tune flashed in. The lack of change I saw after I first loaded Bama tune to the change I felt after the update and reflash was exponential. I wasn't aware that the hand held units had become like Blu-Ray players and TV's needing firmware updates (and admittedly I find it a bit disappointing that the X4 didn't arrive with those updates already preloaded) I know you can see a difference between tuners, as I told Alex I previously had a blown 5.4 Navigator running 7-8 #'s of boost that was first tuned by Diablo and later an outfit in VA that specialized on the F150 platform. The difference was night and day, and ended up being 37hp and over 40#tq not to mention that the Diablo tune had my trans blowing fluid out of it with drive ability issues. Any tuner can squeeze a few more ponies out, at the cost of driveability and chances of implosion....but those who tune it safely and within reasonable specs are the guys you want tweaking your programs.

 

[50HHHHH]

For sure going to give Bama a try, seems like they have came a long way. And I am very curious to see how it stacks up against my tune on my G8 by Pat G! If he started tuning coyotes I would be one happy person.

 

[motoman620]

Bama's new V2 tunes are definitely on my short list now, I wouldn't even consider the old tunes with all the negative feedback but the new V2 tunes sound promising......

 

[evanjp]

Alex.

I have an SCT SF3 tuner I had Bama tunes on my 2002 Mustang GT. It needs to be unlocked, however. I am currently searching for a tuner and have really been hedging towards Lund. Do you guys unlock tuners? Thought I would ask.

Also, I'm guessing since I now have a 2013 GT now I'm not eligible for the tunes for life? I too am concerned about the drivability of the car and the #8 problem so im just bobbing for apples here seeing what you could possibly do for me.

Thanks.

Evan.

 

[bslaw83]

I got an updated tune shortly after Paul moved over there. Tune was already much improved over what I had before. I just submitted to make sure I'm on the most up to date tunes. If so, I'm going to do some data logging. I'll get the results up here.