They are from Ford Racing and have seals on them in MISC places.
Saw one at PRI in the Ford Racing both last year.
AED tune before/after track times
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They are from Ford Racing and have seals on them in MISC places.
Saw one at PRI in the Ford Racing both last year.
I should have elaborated. What I'm wondering is if they get special treatment at Ford, like balancing/blue printing, or if they are just plucked off the assembly line at random?
It's been a long time for me since I worked at a place that used factory crate engines, back then you could take a crate motor and just do good balance and blueprint on them and pick up a good chunk of HP. Maybe modern manufacturing obviates the need for that?
Nobody really know because nobody has taken one apart because if you do then its no longer sealed. Also the calibration is far from a stock calibration so there is plenty to be had there as well.
JPC's car is running that well due to several factors and one of them is testing along with attention to detail.
We are building a CS car for next year and look forward to runing our 86 Fox in the class. :beer:
As far as the rest of this debate goes I say congrats to the OP. To everyone else chasing my 10.88, I look forward to whoever eclipses our mark first and hope that a complete and open discussion about what it took to beat our 10.88 can be had with weight and everything taken into consideration so the public is given all the info they deserve. :beer: I do have a feeling that someone in Texas will do it first.
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Nobody really know because nobody has taken one apart because if you do then its no longer sealed. Also the calibration is far from a stock calibration so there is plenty to be had there as well.
JPC's car is running that well due to several factors and one of them is testing along with attention to detail.
We are building a CS car for next year and look forward to runing our 86 Fox in the class. :beer:
As far as the rest of this debate goes I say congrats to the OP. To everyone else chasing my 10.88, I look forward to whoever eclipses our mark first and hope that a complete and open discussion about what it took to beat our 10.88 can be had with weight and everything taken into consideration so the public is given all the info they deserve. :beer: I do have a feeling that someone in Texas will do it first.
JJ
What was the DA and weather conditions on the 10.88 run?
Dragtimes doesnt list it but it was excellent conditions. Most likely 800ft and 55* or so. :beer:
Of course the 1.48 60ft didnt hurt either. :beer:
JJ
kdanner
Banned
Misinformation was posted about my car. BTW, you do know Shaun is the other person who has shown the extremely poor quality MAF signal that your product induces, which has lead many to remove it to correct poor idle and surging problems. I know you always say there is no problem, but there are plenty of your customers, well, now ex customers that removed your product.
And you leave out that the 3200# with driver car above is stuffed full of lightweight driveline parts, even a T5 transmission. Nothing wrong with that, that's how you build a class car, but you gloss right over it like it is the same as a street car. Then the tune lets it go to 7600 RPM, it's not at all a stock tune. Plus I can think of one way right off the top of my head to manipulate the timing mechanically without affecting the engine seals.
Only true in circumstances where you aren't trying to get every last RPM out of the processor. When you are in that situation, even things like the track getting re-sprayed can cause the car to get on the rev limiter due to the increase in acceleration rate. DA changes from day to day do this as well.
What a mindless and imbecilic response. Drag your shit to Houston and prove how bad ass it is.
I hand calculate it to be in the ballpark of -900. And before you go there, if you use that info to say that the only reason he ran 9 hundredths quicker than Shaun was because he had 1200 foot better air, then you'll also use it to say wbt will certainly pick up more than the less than 3 hundredths he is behind, considering he was in 1100 foot worse air than Shaun.
SirJAG said:
As my user title suggests, I have asked for my account to be deleted on more than one occasion. They fail to do so.
/\ next time your out at Houston raceway park, please do let me know. I would love to see your car perform!
Yawn. I am not the one making claims about how "bad ass" my car is. Remember, I have the 11.7 car, and Shaun has the 10.9 car. He has the bad ass car, I have a daily driver I take to the track every now and then. Further, you two are the ones that keep laying down gauntlets and then expecting people to come to you to pick them up. Here is an idea, bring one of your cars to Louisiana or California and race me or Shaun. I never challenged either one of you, nor did Shaun. I think it is fair that if you want to prove something, you be the one to make the effort to prove it.
Also, tell me exactly how we are supposed to conduct this proposed grudge race at an NMRA event? Are we supposed to duke it out in time trials? I don't belong to the NMRA, don't want to join the NMRA, don't want to make my car tech legal for one of their events and don't know exactly how we are even supposed to manage this big showdown.
kdanner
Banned
I don't either. I don't think you have to join for this non points race. If they do want that, I'll just enter a bracket class, I will not pay them a membership.
Translation: I don't want to add the weight of the required safety equipment like you guys already have, that would put me ever farther behind. :burn:
But yet you keep coming back lol
I have a solution for settling this tuning discussion:
Have someone donate their car (to be determined auto or stick)
Have WBT and KDanner meet at a track of their choice with the owner and his car and TUNE it to the best of their ability. Doesn't really matter how fast it goes.
Then have shaun remote tune (unless he wants to attend the race) that same day.
AND SEE WHO'S TUNE IS FASTEST !
Atleast we can settle the tuning aspect of this dilema.
What are everyone's thoughts.
S
Have someone donate their car (to be determined auto or stick)
Have WBT and KDanner meet at a track of their choice with the owner and his car and TUNE it to the best of their ability. Doesn't really matter how fast it goes.
Then have shaun remote tune (unless he wants to attend the race) that same day.
AND SEE WHO'S TUNE IS FASTEST !
Atleast we can settle the tuning aspect of this dilema.
What are everyone's thoughts.
S
No, I am not going to cage my DD, for one. If I was dead serious and all I wanted to do was race you guys, I would show up with a lighter car than Shaun, trust me. We need a test and tune day with nice DA at a track that does not bust balls and where we can run all day.
Well, that is going to raise all kinds of issues. Tuning to win and tuning to live are two totally different things.
Plus, to make it even, the car should be an auto. Kris is the auto specialist, and Shaun has spent more effort on the M6 cars. Of course, you also have the aspect of whether the driver/owner is truly a neutral party....tough comparo.
Mike
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That would just turn into who has the most money to spend. If money is no big deal then you wouldn't care if the car made but one weekend of racing.
Well to make it equal it would have to have so many rules otherwise it would be hard to get a true comparison.
I was thinking the D/A was closer to what kdanner calculated. I was only pointing out the D/A because of JJ 's post above, as it clearly had a factor in his results. If someone beats his record and D/A is a huge factor, it would be pointed out.... (no matter who it is).
a quick google search shows that the temps in rising sun, md on 12/10/11 was a high of 47 degrees and a low of 33. Just plugging in 40 degrees, 30", and 50% humidity comes up with a DA of almost -1000. Typical for Cecil that time of year.
dear lord must be nice
That track is amazing in November and December if you can hook up. I still wouldnt want to move back to the Tri-State area though.
Awesome thanks for the info. I knew it was a good day but didn't know it was that good. We also had a lightning there that picked up 2mph (133 to 135) and benefitted from the conditions.
The best part of that day was celebrating my sons 4th birthday later that evening so yes it was a great day!!!!!!
JJ
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