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2014 Mustang to have IRS
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2 I went from SRA to IRS, identical chassis and the IRS can't be touched for daily driving.
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We'd rather have the best solid axle than a mediocre multi-point rear. Hint, hint, Chevy. 'Nuff said.
The 2014 Mustang, which will be based off a revised Falcon platform, shouldn't add more weight.
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do you have some info on this? all i've heard as of late is that ford USA and ford oz were fighting over rights to design the global RWD platform that would underpin both cars, and it ended up getting axed when the new US CAFE regs were released. from what i understand, the mustang will return on a major revision of the current S197 architecture(no doubt, with an IRS).
We'd rather have the best solid axle than a mediocre multi-point rear. Hint, hint, Chevy. 'Nuff said.
The 2014 Mustang, which will be based off a revised Falcon platform, shouldn't add more weight.
either way, i'm positive that the mustang will weigh the same, if not lose weight, since ford has been focusing on cutting weight on all new cars to help with the CAFE regs.
Hi mate, how you been?
Here's a comprehensive view of what is on the drawing board. As he says, it's the plan, but they're still a fair way off at this stage.
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A Fairlane SHO??? Kinky.
not too bad, just wasting life away
and your self?thanks for the info, apparently i've been dropping the ball lately, lol. that product line up makes perfect sense, hopefully it's dead on. i would LOVE to see the thunderbird return! a sedan would be breaking the tradition, but, hey, it worked with the charger.
lincoln looks to have a VERY bright future, so much potential based on their current line up. i think i'm looking forward to watching lincoln out of all the companies the most. mercury still doesn't have an identity though.
I have had 2003 Cobra, 2008 Gt500 and 2010 GT500 all as daily drivers. The 08 was better than the 03 and 10 is better than both as a daily driver in ride and comfort. About the axel thing Motor Trend did not complain about it at all and matter of fact state the Handling was better than either the IRS equiped Camaro or Challenger in the handling dept. The 11 does not wheel hop anymore which is a plus nothing to buy when the 2011 ships. The 08 and 10 wheelhop was a very easy and cheap to fix, a Roush anti wheelhop kit did the trick which consisted of a UCA that cannot be said for the 03 IRS. I'am sure that my 2011 GT500 will be better than my 2010 they just keep getting better every year. I really do not miss my 03 Cobra and i will never have one again the new ones are just so much better.
We'd rather have the best solid axle than a mediocre multi-point rear. Hint, hint, Chevy. 'Nuff said.
The 2014 Mustang, which will be based off a revised Falcon platform, shouldn't add more weight.
Well, you don't have the best solid axle. A good one, but it can be much better. It would be cool to see the Mustang switch to a Watts link instead of IRS, but I don't think it will happen. Would be cool though.
The IRS in the Camaro added 185lbs, over an aftermarket 12 bolt or over 200lbs. compared to a 10 bolt. This was documented and weighed by a member on the Camaro forums.
If the Mustang gains similar weight, then it would have to lose 200lbs. in the platform. That's asking a lot, but it may be doable. It would make the Mustang one of the lightest 400+hp V8 powered IRS cars under $35k that I can think of. Good luck Ford, I hope they do it.
FYI the little V6 IRS Genesis Coupe weighs 3,400lbs.
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assuming that ford makes the mistake GM made, building the car on a platform designed only with sedans in mind. fortunatly, ford isn't that stupid and they'll design the GRWD platform with both large sedans and medium sized coupes in mind. the IRS isn't the only thing that's heavier than it should be in the pig ass camaro.
exactly why im waiting to drive a 2011 gt. brand new car for 29k with 365whp and a nice upgraded interior. the 03/04 cobras are gonna have to drop 10 to 20% by the end of this year if the new GT is what they say it is.
Wow, I will probably sacrifice many small animals if this happens.
i want solid axle. im either buying a late 11 or early 12. i have 8k saved so far to put down and my GT sold or traded..
i really like brembo wheels and brakes...
i really like brembo wheels and brakes...
It all depends on how much weight they can save from the new platform.
Based on the Camaro's IRS weight, the existing Mustang platform with an IRS would weight close to 3,800lbs in the GT. Similarly, the existing Camaro with SRA would weigh under 3,700lbs.
Thus, the IRS and the slight difference in dimensions looks to be really what separates the two in terms of weight. Not the chassis like many assume.
What cars would the Mustang shares its new platform with?
The Camaro should be on Alpha by 2015 which should be lighter and smaller and will be shared with Cadillac and Buick models.
Therefore, I predict that if Mustang gets IRS on its next platform and Camaro is built on Alpha that the weight difference between the two will be negligible. Perhaps this will make the 2011 to 2013/14 Mustangs very desirable.
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the ?is why? it already handles good, it outhandles the 03-04 cobra with irs, and outhandles the 07-10 gt500 with a solid axle and its already 3600lbs it has the weight advantage its gonna weigh as much as a tank if they do irs so dumb.
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When the Mustang finally does get a new IRS...it will out-handle all previous Mustangs. Count on it. Also, adding a 150 to 200lb IRS to the existing '11 GT500 (which won't happen anyway as we know) would move more weight to the back...which is not necessarily a bad thing on the Mustang. I'd wager it would still handle better and be a better ride overall...but we will never know until the new chassis arrives.
If it's based off the current FG platform, itself on target for a diet, the net gain in weight for Mustang would be next to nothing.
The current I6 (cast iron I6 weighs the same as the new 5.0) Falcon is 3750lbs, and if they do what they say they want to do I can't it being a problem keeping the Mustang with IRS at the same ~3650lbs.
Now, that's not light as much as the Camaro is a porky. Camaro needs Alpha.
The current I6 (cast iron I6 weighs the same as the new 5.0) Falcon is 3750lbs, and if they do what they say they want to do I can't it being a problem keeping the Mustang with IRS at the same ~3650lbs.
Now, that's not light as much as the Camaro is a porky. Camaro needs Alpha.
Does the Falcon meet US safety standards?
Obviously the new chassis would have to meet current and future standards, which often (not always) translates to more weight. It is going to be a tough battle to lose weight and maintain price, but I hope they are successful. Ford has been doing some creative things so far, so I want to believe its possible.
Why do you think the Mustang would be 100lbs. lighter than the Falcon or essentially weight the same as it does now?
From the IRS weights I have seen for the 03-04' Cobra and 10' Camaro, you are essentially saying the new platform would save 150-200lbs. (the weight of IRS over a SRA). Although it does look like the Falcon is longer than the Mustang and lets hope it stays that way as the Mustang doesn't need to get any bigger. Perhaps the Mustang is going to get smaller.......
An IRS doesn't have to weigh that much...Yes it was poorly designed and weighed too much in our 03-04 Cobras, but it doesn't have to going forward. Cars like the 350/370Z and Corvette have very light independent setups.
Depending on the platform used I could see Ford keeping the weight down regardless of an IRS.
I do agree about safety standards though, I think that will be Ford's biggest obstacle in keeping the weight down.
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