Have an 04 terminator. Serious question here. I thought rods were the weak spot in these motors, limiting you to somewhere in the 600whp range? What did I miss? I know I’m not imagining things here. Lol
Rods weak link on the Cobra? No.
Have an 04 terminator. Serious question here. I thought rods were the weak spot in these motors, limiting you to somewhere in the 600whp range? What did I miss? I know I’m not imagining things here. Lol
Have an 04 terminator. Serious question here. I thought rods were the weak spot in these motors, limiting you to somewhere in the 600whp range? What did I miss? I know I’m not imagining things here. Lol
no sir.
Those cars can run 6-700whp EASILY. Know a few buddies running close to 4 figures on stock bottom ends.
Have an 04 terminator. Serious question here. I thought rods were the weak spot in these motors, limiting you to somewhere in the 600whp range? What did I miss? I know I’m not imagining things here. Lol
Haha I've owned and worked on a bunch of terminators. They're beasts and will always be the standard which everything else is measured by although 1100+ whp from a stock terminator long lock isn't exactly common place.
I was teasing you because I know that you have seen more terminators than almost anyone save an assembly line production tech haha
I actually really like the hellcats and demons, I think in ethos they are the evolution of the terminator.
Serious question...was testing at Dodge so hurried that they somehow overlooked these impending failures or deemed any they saw as insignificant and not a true and accurate sampling of what happens when tracked hard?
Had no idea. I distinctly remember being discouraged back then about putting a big blower on the car without upgrading the internals. I feal cheated. LolRods weak link on the Cobra? No.
Also, why do I see so many cars with upgraded bottom ends that are only in the 800whp range? What would be the point if they’re good for 1000whp?no sir.
Those cars can run 6-700whp EASILY. Know a few buddies running close to 4 figures on stock bottom ends.
My point exactly. The failures seen at this point show a weak link in the chain or a Factor of Safety that was deemed acceptable within certain constraints.
Also, why do I see so many cars with upgraded bottom ends that are only in the 800whp range? What would be the point if they’re good for 1000whp?
How many 90's production cars were capable of 1100 whp on a stock longblock and blower? Or were capable of 9.1's with simple bolt ons? You may want to do a little research.
Fact is the hellcat/demon engines are far more capable from the factory than anything ford has produced to date including the 13/14 gt500.
Why do Dodge fanboys always have to use this word "stock?" it reminds me of Big10 fans who insist on pointing out that their school has superior academics. No one cares if it's stock or not.
My point is that volumetric efficiency and specific output, 840 crank hp out of a blown 6.2L engine is OLD technology and frankly an OLD (very old benchmark). Guys were making 800 ponies from an engine that size 3 decades ago.
My secondary point is, I don't expect Dodge to field a 2.3L with a zillion psi of boost that revs to the moon to get it done, however, it's OBVIOUS that they haven't spent a DIME in any sort of tech r/d for better valvetrain and higher revving or weight savings, or wringing out what a 6.2L motor is capable of producing. The fact that they tuned the motor to require RACE FUEL to get 800 HP out of a 380 cubic inch motor is pretty weak and pathetic. There are guys making those numbers out of motors (on race fuel) at 1/3 of the size.
I could set all that aside if the car wasn't a pig. The HC/Demon would be a special offering if it didn't weigh 2 and a half tons. There's absolutely NO reason why a 2 door car should weigh 4400 lbs.
Dodge could have made 800hp on pump gas with a much lighter power plant and saved a couple hundred lbs alone there. Sure, with less torque, but every lb you shave off lessens how much torque you need to move the car. Then, they could have spent some money on lightweight components and shaved a few hundred lbs more. At the end of the day, an 800 hp demon at 3500 lbs would be a special car. It's also an iterative process whereby that 1000 extra lbs doesn't demand such beefy and heavy components. Furthermore, every lb you shave off improves the handling and braking characteristics of the car (not that those things are important to Mopar heads, but hey, as long as you've got wheels, doesn't hurt to turn and stop).
It's evident, dodge didn't spend a dime on anything new or innovative on their challenger/charger lines. My point is, there's virtually NOTHING in the Demon/Hellcat line beyond the electronics package that wasn't available or achievable in the mid 90's.
Maybe the Hellcat team rushed just a bit to avoid having to crawl a few blocks on their hands and knees.
Italian companies make their employees do that sometimes too.
LMFAO-because everyone thinks they're a tuner, when they're not
-because people do dumb shit when installing things
-because people do dumb shit while driving the cars
-because people put in wrong fuel
LMFAO
I love watching Youtube videos and reading threads like those!!!! They get me a good chuckle.
HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAsaw a car that had the Nitrous Line ran THROUGH the header primaries.
literally between them.
what.