If Ford is smart, there is an R version of the GT500 lurking in a secret Skunkworks section of Ford Performance codenamed "Coletti's Crucifix"
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You can throw that Merriam-Webster definition away. Mustangs and Camaros are pony cars, not muscle cars. V8 Challengers/Chargers, the Chevy SS sedan, and (dare I say) the Taurus SHO are muscle cars. (Along with a few cars from the Germans.) The Mustang was built for two reasons; 1) Carroll Shelby wanted something to race against Corvettes (yep!) and 2) to be a working class man's GT/sports car. The Mustang literally defined the class, hence them being called "pony" cars. There were several pony cars in the late '60s and early '70s. The Mustang and Camaro are the only survivors.
Carroll Shelby went Chevrolet about building a Cobra but Chevrolet decline because they had the Corvette.
You said something I can agree with.Shelby had already been with Ford for a long time. The way the documentaries and books (and he) put it, he went to Ford brass and said he wanted something he could use to "kick the shit out of the Corvette." You might be thinking of a "second generation" Cobra, which is what he eventually ended up making with Dodge by way of the Viper. Yes, the Viper was/is the modern Cobra.
Again,................lolHC Redeye. Claimed 797 hp. Looks like Ford has it’s work cut out for it.
Why do people think ford has to beat 797 or 10.8? Hell the new HC makes 717hp and runs 10.9. Is that extra 80 hp that important?HC Redeye. Claimed 797 hp. Looks like Ford has it’s work cut out for it.
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OH,.......I get it. Sorta like the GT350 and GT350R on the drag strip, right?!?!HahahahahahahahaView attachment 1498649
OH,.......I get it. Sorta like the GT350 and GT350R on the drag strip, right?!?!
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The ZL1 is a pony car, too. There are a great many of us who simply don't want a ginormous car. It's called preferences. There are still people lining up to pay MSRP+ for GT350s even though they could stroll right over to a Chevy dealership and pickup a brand new ZL1 for as much as $15K below MSRP.
This is the point you stop caring about power. On high octane fuel, I'm putting 790bhp to the wheels. Not crank. Wheels. Enjoy the turns, I'm heading to outer space!
It’s all about the driver. As proof a 15 Mustang gt pp was running .52’s at Sonoma while the c7z and 991.1 GT3 were running .56 and .57 respectively.I love this sentiment. I'm getting a deal, so it must be inferior. I raced a friend's ZL1 at Laguna Seca this weekend (f'ing awesome). The GT350's that were there didn't perform in any exceptional manner. Several guys in ZL1's were killing it. For a track focused car, they seem underwhelming in real life at the track. Maybe GT350 guys like reading Motortrend more than racing their cars.
Faster car for less money......am I missing something?
It's called artificial supply/demand plus dealer mark up. GM is simply building more of them and dealers aren't gouging their customers.
I haven't seen $15k less than MSRP, but if you find one at that price buy it.
For a track focused car, they seem underwhelming in real life at the track. Maybe GT350 guys like reading Motortrend more than racing their cars.
Faster car for less money......am I missing something?
It's called artificial supply/demand plus dealer mark up. GM is simply building more of them and dealers aren't gouging their customers.