Do you think the USA will make it?

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While the border is a lawless joke, I can’t help but feel like I would rather coexist with more of those people than most city dwellers.
I agree. I used to work in an impoverished school district in SoCal and I currently work at the most diverse university campus in the US. Many of the younger people who were brought here by their parents illegally or were born here after their parents came into the country illegally are hard working, church going folks (usually Catholic). They just want a chance in the US. I'm not saying there aren't bad people coming across the border, I'm saying that the majority are people just looking for a better life for their families and kids and their kids (I have worked with many) are decent people.
You disagree with my overall message & post a link with factual information with several charts defining the crux of my overall message?





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You said we are heading straight into a shithole country. I disagree with that message...but I do agree that we need tighter borders and we need to enforce the law at the border.
 

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No... the machines/AI/robots WILL take over.
They will have no regard for our nation states.
 

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Tough call on this one.
Some of the issues were are dealing with make it seem like the US will not make it. One thing is for certain though,.......we can expect all our consumer goods to cost more now.
Let's not forget the amount of very dangerous drugs and illegal aliens that have crossed the border.
 

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Everything will be fine. Statistically it is the best time to be alive in history. It's hard to look past that with all the negativity in media, social media and news. Certain things may change for the better or worse but I think it is highly unlikely the country goes up in flames in the next 5-50-100 years some people thing is a certainty.
 

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This country is in the decline like other civilizations that fell from the inside. Culture becomes more tolerant to deviant and violent behavior. We cannot sustain that, plus all of the handouts that people are getting used to. For the time being, in spite of all the pressures this country is dealing with, we are surviving. Cannot last though. My many years in the military spoiled me because we all got along. We had to. Outside the gate it’s a different story. Now the military is becoming like regular society, it’s some scary shit to me.
 

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You disagree with my overall message & post a link with factual information with several charts defining the crux of my overall message?





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The US will make it.

The better question, will the US that we want to live in and raise a family make it?

The pendulum is always swinging. However, I believe it no longer swings equally.

I think we are just really getting started. Lol


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The Administration is not ignoring the border issue, it is actively creating it. Knowing full well when the sum of handout receivers out number the handout givers (read taxpayers), that then the population will be totally dependent upon the ruling elite. Life as we knew it is diminishing daily.
 

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The US will make it.

The better question, will the US that we want to live in and raise a family make it?

The pendulum is always swinging. However, I believe it no longer swings equally.

I think we are just really getting started. Lol
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I agree, this is a bump in the road. Just like the OP, concerns have crept into my mind about the world for my kids (ages 12 and 14), but I think it will be OK long term. For right now though, it is going to be a bumpy ride for a while.

So much of the focus in media, social media, message boards, etc. is negative and divisive. However, I tend to think that the number of decent people far exceeds the indecent jackasses. For example (and I'm sure @VegasMichael will attest to this): All we hear about on the news locally is how our school district is in shambles. Violence is up, we are failing our kids, etc. My kids have had great experiences so far in their lives within the district, and a colleague of mine shared that on "signing day" at her son's high school (not for athletics but just to celebrate where the school's graduates will be heading to college) kids announced their acceptances to the Air Force Academy, USC, UCLA, ASU, Stanford, Michigan, and every Ivy you can name. Yet you won't get a story on the news about this; they will cover how a boy mooned the principal while the school bus drove away on the last day of school.

My point is, the exceptions to the rule and the outlandish stories get all the attention, while the vast majority of people go on with their lives doing good for themselves, their neighbors, their families, and their communities. Keep the faith...
5 kids at Clark High School all got perfect scores on the ACT. Meet the 5 students who got a perfect ACT score at this Las Vegas high school
Another senior got a full ride to Harvard. Local student earns one of the highest GPAs in CCSD history
The school district has its problems but it's not a complete failure like many like to portray it.

To answer the OP:
Our country has been through worse and come out fine. Look at the 20th Century:
WW1 and Spanish flu, Depression, WW II, Korean War, polio, rock and roll music(lol) which many thought was evil and would ruin the minds of our youth, Cuban missile crisis, Kennedy assassination, Vietnam, counterculture of the 60s and 70s which many thought was so harmful, The Cold War, 70s gas crisis and inflation, Iranian hostages, high interest rates in the early 80s, Operation Desert Storm. We made it through. Then in the 21st Century: 9/11, war in Iraq and Afghanistan, Credit Crisis and stock market/real estate meltdown, Coronavirus, rampant illegal border crossings, droughts, wildfires, political divisiveness and hatred and now crazy home prices and rents and inflation. It all sucks but we always marched on. Like Warren Buffet has always said: Betting against America has always been a bad bet.
 

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I agree.

I mean... the Thread question is a pretty broad one.

Will the USA make it in 50 years? Yeah, I definitely think so.

500? Nope. No way.
I get what you're saying, one of the many things that drives me insane is the election bullshit and how evidence keeps piling up and it seems not one person in power is questioning anything. Also how the EPA/ATF/FBI and so on get to do whatever the hell they want with no one questioning them. That's what makes me worry about this country and if will make it.
 

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5 kids at Clark High School all got perfect scores on the ACT. Meet the 5 students who got a perfect ACT score at this Las Vegas high school
Another senior got a full ride to Harvard. Local student earns one of the highest GPAs in CCSD history
The school district has its problems but it's not a complete failure like many like to portray it.

To answer the OP:
Our country has been through worse and come out fine. Look at the 20th Century:
WW1 and Spanish flu, Depression, WW II, Korean War, polio, rock and roll music(lol) which many thought was evil and would ruin the minds of our youth, Cuban missile crisis, Kennedy assassination, Vietnam, counterculture of the 60s and 70s which many thought was so harmful, The Cold War, 70s gas crisis and inflation, Iranian hostages, high interest rates in the early 80s, Operation Desert Storm. We made it through. Then in the 21st Century: 9/11, war in Iraq and Afghanistan, Credit Crisis and stock market/real estate meltdown, Coronavirus, rampant illegal border crossings, droughts, wildfires, political divisiveness and hatred and now crazy home prices and rents and inflation. It all sucks but we always marched on. Like Warren Buffet has always said: Betting against America has always been a bad bet.
This is all very true and I why it's important to remember history.
 

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Many battles against moral ethics are being exposed. Including the so called media that is dividing our great country for a headline to distort. Bad news outsells good news . Way more good things happen in America every day than bad . The sky is not falling and bright lights keep appearing, Virginia’s governor, Musk helping with freedom of speech. I thought it was appalling when President Trump said the media is the enemy of the people. Some of them are being exposed to be. This country is worth fighting for . Proud to be a veteran of the viet nam era.
 

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There's things we have been through before as history tends to repeat itself. From my perspective, we can endure almost anything as long as we don't forget the spirit of what this country was founded on. The problems I see are that half, or a large enough portion, of America is purposely ignoring/forgetting what America was founded on. Godly principles that establish the foundation that we all are supposed to live by, but yet interpret in our own way as not all of us are God-fearing. The best part is that it was designed so that the God-fearing and non-believers could live in harmony in a single nation, understanding and respecting one another through the prism of ultimate freedom. Some argue that that vision was not what the founders had in mind and that it was one sided towards religion but that is what it turned out to be regardless. We forgot that, or rather purposely abandoned that harmony and now we find ourselves deadlocked in being forced to choose one side or the other. We can't live that way and if we continue down that path then destruction from the inside is imminent. We've experienced similar situations in the past but I don't know if we can say to this extent as mental illness plays a huge part in what drives one side and keeps them from coming to the negotiating table. Our biggest hurdle is getting the left and the right to denounce the ones that speak loudest but don't speak truth and come together to get the nation back on track focused on forward progress vs feelings and acceptance.

On a religious note, this world is destined for decay so it going to happen at some point. The Bible says right will become wrong and wrong will become right, children will openly disrespect their parents, and lawlessness will be abound. Sure, we have seen these traits pop up in the past but to what extent? I'd say we are reaching the breaking point of what society can handle with such open disobedience. Disobedience that has infected even the highest of offices which I would argue we have never seen in this nation's history. There's always been a logical, grounded authority figure in this nation yet today the side arguing for logic and reason has been completely silenced. I truly believe we are living in the Biblical end times, but I still can't give a time line of the end. Could be this year or it could be 50 years. We simply don't know the time frame except by watching for the signs.
 

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It's not the only reason why we don't have any kids, but I definitely wouldn't want to raise any the way things are now. I honestly like the more simple times. Too much social media, self entitled, my feelings are hurt kinda stuff for me.

Call me old school at 42 I guess.

Funny thing is, a lot of our friends say we are the type of people who should be "breeding". Seems there is less and less people with morals.

I use to be a people person, but people ruined it for me.

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