Well have you seen gas prices lately?!OP creates thread titled,
"Who do so many V8 guys, just HATE on Tesla?"
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Well have you seen gas prices lately?!OP creates thread titled,
"Who do so many V8 guys, just HATE on Tesla?"
Then posts this:
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My understanding was the LFP was better in the cold. I'm sure neither are great. My NCA in extreme winter weather (15* blizzard conditions) I saw around a 40-45% reduction in range.
I know they are less energy dense and can be routinely charged, and stored, at 100% SOC
You are correct and no where did I say it is currently available. The point is, that tech is coming soon and there will be no excuse for how long it takes to recharge.
You can probably get to a 5 min charge if you are OK with fire.
All the battery "breakthroughs" are complete bullshit.
Why All Those EV-Battery ‘Breakthroughs’ You Hear About Aren’t Breaking Through
In the superheated market for batteries, promising lab developments often get overhyped by startups. “Liar, liar, battery supplier.”www.wsj.com
What do they do there? Do they mod the Teslas?I was watching an episode of Car Fix one morning last year and they were working on a Tesla. They brought in a specialist and to my surprise, it was someone from an old local Mustang Club that I used to know. I had no idea he got into that line of the auto industry. I wish I could remember the name of his company.
Edit: Electrified Garage is the name of the company.
Thanks for copying only part of my message. Again, you'd make a great politician too. Reading must be hard, here's the rest of my quote to help you out.I never said they don't need nickel or cobalt.
Uhhhh.
Cobalt and nickel free. Just need iron (literally everywhere) and lithium (3rd most abundant element)
I was watching an episode of Car Fix one morning last year and they were working on a Tesla. They brought in a specialist and to my surprise, it was someone from an old local Mustang Club that I used to know. I had no idea he got into that line of the auto industry. I wish I could remember the name of his company.
Edit: Electrified Garage is the name of the company.
I've not been there, as I haven't a need. But that shop is held in the highest regard possible on local forums and groups.What do they do there? Do they mod the Teslas?
Thanks for the calcification.Since the materials of the two batteries are different, their tolerance to temperature is also different. The NMC battery has a relatively balanced temperature tolerance and can work normally in normal low temperature and high-temperature environments; while the LFP battery has a stronger high-temperature tolerance than NMC batteries, but on the contrary, the low-temperature tolerance is relatively poor, at 0°C, the performance of the LFP battery will decrease by about 10~20%, and at -20°C, the performance is only about 60% of the original. This is why LFP batteries are not recommended in cold regions.
- Temperature Tolerance
What he fails to understand is that the price to charge the car, and the price for home electricity is different. Vastly different.Well have you seen gas prices lately?!
What he fails to understand is that the price to charge the car, and the price for home electricity is different. Vastly different.
I use a TOU (time of use) meter that gives approximately a 45% discount to charge my car between 9pm-7am. The vehicle knows the schedule so it will automatically charge when it's cheaper.
The downside is a 45%+ surcharge if I charge during the day. But this isn't really ever needed.
Currently I can take $4.30 (cost of 1 gallon of gas) and very easily drive 150-175 miles
Absolutely correctThe problem is that everyone will want to charge at night, so those non-peak discounts will disappear. It also means you have to have a robust non-intermittent power source to meet the demand. Or, you have to spackle a battery storage power supply onto the grid and hope your intermittent power supply isn't. It is gonna be ugly.
But when that time comes, as @Weather Man said, "it's gonna be ugly".Absolutely correct
But as we can see here, it's going to be a while until "everybody" is charging at night.
So for now, I'll enjoy the savings.
Even without the TOU discount, and the rate spike due the "Ukraine War" I could still drive 95-135 miles.
Although I saw a post that somebody's TOU discount in a southern state was quite literally 1c per kWh. That be 2,000 miles for $4
But when that time comes, as @Weather Man said, "it's gonna be ugly".
But when that time comes, as @Weather Man said, "it's gonna be ugly".
There are just so many unanswered questions. Here's one, heat wave down South and everyone has the air turned on full blast. Nighttime comes and everyone still the air blasting and now everyone plugs in the EV and pulls another 40 to 80 amps times 2 for every house. ??????????????
I'm confused... When has the government NOT lied to us? Everything we see on the news is fake, if not "fake" its heavily massaged to deliver their "message"My take on electric vehicles in general is, they aren't quite there yet. And I'm not sure if they will ever be as convenient as ICE vehicles. I could be wrong. I mean, in the early days of automobiles, you went and got a bucket of gas from the hardware store. How convenient was that?
I think electric works well for the person that has a rigid schedule and not a huge commute. But for someone like myself, it will never work.
On the performance side, how do you fill in the blank for "there's no replacement for _________"?
Your government is lying to you
"Elon has switched the cheaper Teslas to a LiFePO4, or LFP for short"
Because you have the ability to mass produce them in the USA. Sorry if I thought that making something in the USA is a pro. The Model 3 is already the MOST AMERICAN car you can buy today by content percent. Adding to the ability to down the road manufacturer the batteries here could be a big deal.Why is this a good thing? This technology is heavier, lower energy density, more effected by the cold, and they do not charge in the cold. They are likely not much cheaper given the cost of lithium.
Only a simp would proclaim a step backward as a sign of progress.
Why is this a good thing? This technology is heavier, lower energy density, more effected by the cold, and they do not charge in the cold. They are likely not much cheaper given the cost of lithium.
Only a simp would proclaim a step backward as a sign of progress.
Because you have the ability to mass produce them in the USA. Sorry if I thought that making something in the USA is a pro.
They are also significantly cheaper to manufacturer.
But yeah I'm just a "simp" you got it man. Have a good night