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I would like to see the track pack 350 or trofeo' go head to head with the z. I don't think the z would win. But who cars the new 6 1le will beat all including z06!!!

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Statistically, you're in the minority. Ask everyone who bought a non-r if they would have purchased an R, if they had the option and if the ADM wasn't like it is. I would have been plenty excited with a non-r if I hadn't found mine - excellent value, which we can agree with one caveat; as long as you're leaving the non-r stock. As soon as you buy a set of "real" wheels/tires, the value gap narrows quite a bit (of course, assuming the R could be had at MSRP or even $5k over).
I said nothing about preferring the 350 over the R.

What I suggested is that the visual differences are so minor that only fans will really notice a difference. The visual badassery difference is extremely minor.
 

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I would like to see the track pack 350 or trofeo' go head to head with the z. I don't think the z would win. But who cars the new 6 1le will beat all including z06!!!

More C7 hating, I see. Dude, have you seen the Z06 lap times? Let me just hit you with some facts you can't deny. It ran a 1:58 to the GT350R's 2:02 in the pcoty event. That's 4 seconds if you need help. Have you seen what it looks like when a car puts 4 seconds on another car? Pretty bad. It beat everything in every class at VIR at the Car and Driver Lightning Lap, including the 911 GT3, Lamborghini Huracan, and McLaren 650S. It also has gone 2:41 at VIR with GM driver Jim Mero. To put that in perspective, the fastest a Porsche 918 has gone there i think is 2:43. Stop spewing your garbage on the net dude. Hate GM or Corvette all you want, the performacne can't be denied and is the best all around that America has to offer.
 
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More C7 hating, I see. Dude, have you seen the Z06 lap times? Let me just hit you with some facts you can't deny. It ran a 1:58 to the GT350R's 2:02 in the pcoty event. That's 4 seconds if you need help. Have you seen what it looks like when a car puts 4 seconds on another car? Pretty bad. It beat everything in every class at VIR at the Car and Driver Lightning Lap, including the 911 GT3, Lamborghini Huracan, and McLaren 650S. It also has gone 2:41 at VIR with GM driver Jim Mero. To put that in perspective, the fastest a Porsche 918 has gone there i think is 2:43. Stop spewing your garbage on the net dude. Hate GM or Corvette all you want, the performacne can't be denied and is the best all around that America has to offer.

Nope none from me. People say the ss camaro will out lap a 350 which puts up the same times as a z51. Natural assumption the 1le will be faster than the z28, R, and naturally the Z.
 

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Didn't the gt350r win that competition though? Must just be a fast enough car that the testers were satisfied. I remember reading that they liked it's driving dynamics and overall feel.

Huh go figure, the more well rounded and enjoyable car won a performance competition. The viper and vette were faster, but less enjoyable as an overall package.

They all suck, some college kids Miata with a turbo kit and track tires, custom suspension and big brakes ran a 1:55 there for $11k total so it's the best car in the world ever! (Obvious sarcasm. I have no idea if this statement is true.)
 

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The 6th gen 1le will make the gt350r look like a snail.

My cousin works at the caddy factory and said the chassis is so stiff because captive aliens at Area 51 were extorted into building it. It's literally the best thing ever.
 

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Obviously some folks can't handle the truth. And when that happens they respond with bad sarcasm. You see, ON D BIT, when I claim something is better than something else I site facts, not what I think I maybe heard someone's brother's cousin's uncle say.
 

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Obviously some folks can't handle the truth. And when that happens they respond with bad sarcasm. You see, ON D BIT, when I claim something is better than something else I site facts, not what I think I maybe heard someone's brother's cousin's uncle say.

2.41 is fact?:D:D:uh oh::rollseyes:bowdown::lol1:
 
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I said nothing about preferring the 350 over the R.

What I suggested is that the visual differences are so minor that only fans will really notice a difference. The visual badassery difference is extremely minor.

I actually prefer the 350 over the R, I could afford to buy a handful of R versions if I wanted to but I choose the Track option GT350 - again no interest in wheels (carbon) that make me Ferrari nervous everytime I take it out.
 

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I actually prefer the 350 over the R, I could afford to buy a handful of R versions if I wanted to but I choose the Track option GT350 - again no interest in wheels (carbon) that make me Ferrari nervous everytime I take it out.

I do too, but I wouldn't suggest it is better (as some seemed to believe I did). I'm with you on the wheels. The extra coolers aren't of much value, as my track days are fewer and further apart with the kids getting older. Not sure how I feel about the R wing.

I would probably take the R for $5k over the base, but not $13k + high ADM. In that price range, I'm just going to get another 911.

I also don't care about this car's performance/numbers vs. that car's performance/numbers. I'm buying this for personal enjoyment and not for track/slip times, and driver > car anyway. :)
 

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More C7 hating, I see. Dude, have you seen the Z06 lap times? Let me just hit you with some facts you can't deny. It ran a 1:58 to the GT350R's 2:02 in the pcoty event. That's 4 seconds if you need help. Have you seen what it looks like when a car puts 4 seconds on another car? Pretty bad. It beat everything in every class at VIR at the Car and Driver Lightning Lap, including the 911 GT3, Lamborghini Huracan, and McLaren 650S. It also has gone 2:41 at VIR with GM driver Jim Mero. To put that in perspective, the fastest a Porsche 918 has gone there i think is 2:43. Stop spewing your garbage on the net dude. Hate GM or Corvette all you want, the performacne can't be denied and is the best all around that America has to offer.

While I understand that the Z06 is a machine, the only thing I need to point out is you can't compare a factory driver to a magazine editors times. GM picked up 7 seconds per lap with their driver vs the editors times in the ZL1.

Based on professional drivers times, and that size track, the 918 will probably put 2-3 seconds on the C7Z.
 

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Keep in mind Motortrend uses an arbitrary "value" metric in their comparisons. I think it would be better if magazines ranked cars purely on performance merit, and then let the readers decide which fits their budget.
 
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Keep in mind Motortrend uses an arbitrary "value" metric in their comparisons. I think it would be better if magazines ranked cars purely on performance merit, and then let the readers decide which fits their budget.
Then the ACR wins hands down and it makes for a very boring article. Theoretical lap times that 99.5% of owners would never be able to replicate themselves are only so interesting, over all feel, drivability, driving experience, are in reality the real "metrics" most should base their purchase off.
 

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feel, drivability, driving experience, are in reality the real "metrics" most should base their purchase off.

I didn't state that performance is just lap time. Feel and drivability are obviously part of it. That just seemed to be an understood point that didn't need to be explained further.
 

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I also don't care about this car's performance/numbers vs. that car's performance/numbers. I'm buying this for personal enjoyment and not for track/slip times, and driver > car anyway. :)

So get a regular GT or Ecoboost and leave the GT350(R) for people who can appreciate it.
 

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So get a regular GT or Ecoboost and leave the GT350(R) for people who can appreciate it.

Pretty asinine thing to say. Just because you aren't chasing magazine numbers doesn't make one any less of an enthusiast or capable of appreciating what the car has to offer. If anything some of those guys are actually more track/driving enthusiasts because they have spend more time actually driving the car vs bench racing magazine times on the internet. But he is right, the driver is the most important part of the equation, something most bench racers seem to neglect
 

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