Thank you for explaining the most basic of engine knowledge and efficiency to us, oh turbo car genius.
EDP 7475 Results
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Thank you for explaining the most basic of engine knowledge and efficiency to us, oh turbo car genius.
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NO problem smart a$$ any time…
Other uses have already changed up pipe and down pipe sizes, no significant changes.
I guarantee jpc knows what's wrong
Mine looks just fine...
Has anyone changed the intercooler yet? Get the CPR intercooler and see if that fixes it lol
exactly.
Because JPC doesn't require valve springs for more than 12 psi either.
Graph of jpc kit, 7675.
Now, tell me how THAT makes you feel??
Now, tell me how THAT makes you feel??
I feel the need...the need for shift points at 6400
all i'm saying is....
the JPC kit, and the EDP kits seem to begin to fall off around the same spots. mine doesn't fall off nearly as bad as that, but it doesn't keep making power to 7500 like Dustin's.
the common denominator between JPC and EDP is the turbo, which many have said...is possibly too small? feel free to reference my graph from tuning session two days ago.
the JPC kit, and the EDP kits seem to begin to fall off around the same spots. mine doesn't fall off nearly as bad as that, but it doesn't keep making power to 7500 like Dustin's.
the common denominator between JPC and EDP is the turbo, which many have said...is possibly too small? feel free to reference my graph from tuning session two days ago.
The more I read this thread, the more On3 doesnt look so bad :rollseyes
Was going to buy on3 but they were out of stock when I went to buy. They couldnt tell me when the kits would be available.
So much testosterone in here lol. I remember why I quit logging into this bs...
I did research before buying my kit. Why spend over 1000$ more for the same result?
At that time the EDP kit had better O2 placement, better IC, and up pipe/turbo support. The merge also appeared to be smoother on the EDP. This may have been changed on the JPC since then? Idk? Just my opinion tho.
A few tuning these things are telling the customs to install valve springs. It won't help power much but it will keep the valves from floating and allow pulls to 6800.
What I find f$&king pathetic is all these ppl blowing smoke to get stuff sold! Stop posting bs dyno charts and avoiding questions! There are no "unicorns"! Come up off that info so some of us stuck (f$&ked) can move on.
I've spoke with several. Some acted like they could help then ended up not having a clue. Why? Because they paid someone to install and bandaid their stuff. Others just wanted to say dumb s$&t like "gap that a$$" or "drag that a$$" and post bs dyno charts thinking I'd believe the crap.
@DD2013 5.0: make me one of those coolant line fittings to point it away from the DP.
Ok enough already. You don't have a fu$Kin clue about anything. You continue to spout off nonsense about turbos, downpipes, what not. People read what you write and assume the worst when you don't have a clue.
Why spend $1k more at most and get the same result? That's funny. The JPC kit comes with a custom slim fan that is worth $500, nicer coolant tank among other additions. Precision wastegates, tial BOV etc. I guess those are junk parts too right?
So what don't you believe about the JPC kits working? This is my STOCK motor car making 875 on pump E85. Ran a 10.00@145 with a stock rear and Magnum XL, weighing in at 4k lbs. That's also with boost by gear and max boost at 10-12lbs by 4th gear, less in 1st/2nd. How again is the kit not working? Base kit, Journal PTE 76/75, 3" downpipe with DMH cutout, full exhaust, base Air to Air Intercooler. What's your car run again? That's right, you can't even get it to run. but you want back pressure #s, stats, charts. Take it to the track and run it already.
I don't know shit about the EDP kit and won't comment on it. However in general, when the power drops off like that, it's usually a back pressure issue, especially with Single turbos. Less so on twins in general, but that's a very general statement. The power is dropping off due to excessive back pressure. Valve float is a result sometimes depending on how much spring pressure you have etc.
Here's a video of the dyno graph of my car when it had the box stock JPC 76/75 journal kit on there. There's another video of it at the track. 2nd pass ever on the car at the track, it went a 10.05. I guess they don't know what they are doing though. The car is now a heads up race car, but anyone is welcome to come get some of that too.
Stop posting nonsense and your opinions on shit you don't have a clue about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYYNyNavbZg
Heres a build than stang tv did with the JPC kit that made power to 7400. Thought it was interesting. The build has ported heads, comp cams, and a different turbo than the base kit among a fully built motor. However it does show you a recipe to make power to 7k.
http://www.stangtv.com/tech-stories/engine/wild-e-coyote-eats-e85-dyno-826-3-horsepower-result/
http://www.stangtv.com/tech-stories/engine/wild-e-coyote-eats-e85-dyno-826-3-horsepower-result/
Very impressive but not apples to apples. Boss motors have different valve springs and are obviously much more stout down low (rods/pistons).
Sounds as if coyote 5.0s (which is what most people own) wont get to 12 psi with the stock hardware.
lol so $30k later you have a turbo kit that is not off-the-shelf JPC and a motor and shares nothing with a stock coyote 5.0.
How again does this bear any relevance?
The Boss springs aren't much better than stock springs. The spring pressure is only marginally better.
How much boost do you think a stock motor will take on a consistent basis? Just a thought when saying people can't run high boost on a stock motor with a turbo.
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