So what's the next step up from yellow Koni's that are ready to go? Coil-overs basically?
Corner Carving, Road Course Racing and general Handling Thread
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Yep. Pretty much. And that's an entirely different argument. Lol
nice parts!There really does need to be a corner carving section!
Just picked up some goodies earlier this week
The GT500 Brembos are complete monsters but the downside is the lack of aftermarket support for pads/slotted rotors. I've recommended others to go towards 4 Piston ones.
Also, I'd say for 75% of people, springs and Koni Yellows will be more than enough. Quality Springs + Koni Adj is the same price as a bottom entry level coilover. Only difference being that you can't adjust the height.
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Test drove my neighbor 2014 Mustang GT, his got a base GT that he bought yesterday, and learned something about my car, as the difference in suspension feeling was noticeable, and talking about it with him, I didn't know the Brembo package had different springs with matching struts/shocks, a different tune for the estability control, gt500 lcas's and other little things, etc, etc. it may not be very special for HD track purposes, but I like how my car feels and react to corners compared to the regular base GT, and I mean the difference for the untrained person like me was more than enough for me to start doing more research about it. I just ordered the 55D springs for the back tonight, as the gap in the rear is all I wanted to fix for now. Still haven't decided the route i'll take, but for $130, I guess it wouldn't be a bad start.
Actually discarded that option, i'll save to replace the struts/shocks and springs.
Running Sonoma race track this up Monday very excited and will be at Thunder hill raceway on April 4th for any local mustang guys that want to join.
I have a question for you corner carvers. how much chamber are you running. I just got mine re-adjusted to 2.5 passenger and 2.3 driver, interested to see what others run on the track.
I have a question for you corner carvers. how much chamber are you running. I just got mine re-adjusted to 2.5 passenger and 2.3 driver, interested to see what others run on the track.
Anyone running coil-overs up front and Yellow koni's out back since rear coil-overs may not be optimal?
My plan is a full whiteline setup with the 11-14 bilstein kit all around. I want to to the bilsteins last so i can make my adjustments for the height drop. I'll move to performance stuff afterwards but i don't intend to do much more than exhaust, CAI and tune.
Glad we're starting this thread. These cars are a blast to drive around corners as well as down a strip.
Glad we're starting this thread. These cars are a blast to drive around corners as well as down a strip.
You'll love the whiteline stuff. Greatly improves feel and the bushings are really quiet.
Look up Ground-Controls setup for these cars.
Just switched to H&R race springs, going to try them out today at autocross.
Interesting kit:
http://www.ground-control-store.com/products/description.php/II=929/CA=96
Wish they'd give more details than simply choosing "ride feel"
And I've never been a big buyer of Eibach
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http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/parts/417530-ground-control-coilovers-11-14-gt.html
So basically height adjustable Koni's with CC plates and possibly different front valving?
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Not many. It's eye opening for most when you autocross one of these cars for the first time and get schooled by a 140hp miata.
Basically yes. They're an ok entry level kit. Personally I'm saving for mcs tt1's.
Little things can make a significant diff on Mustangs, that's alot of what I love about them.
I had Poly LCAs out back and rubber Roush UCA. Good improvement there but the SRA and the body were always competing in corners to see which one could get to the ditch faster, especially on bumpy roads. I've got a BBP already so, some attention has been paid to handling by the factory. It's not perfect, as I outline but, it is ok for a road driven, daily car.
So, to deal with the dancing SRA, last week I burned out all the rubber in the panhard bar and the sway bar links and mounts and replaced it all with poly. 50 bucks worth of bushings and a bit of mess and time and the back end really seems tied to the car now. MUCH better than even the gains from the CAs. I've been told by handling-focussed folks the car needs more rear sway bar and since I already have the 24mm, upping its rate with stiffer bushings seemed worthwhile compared to replacing it. The factory panhard was a surprisingly sturdy piece, just the fluid-filled jello-shot bushings were the problem there.
Still think the dampers could use more rebound control but, that's down the road a bit, as everything is still working pretty satisfactorily...gotta get my money's worth out of the BBP stuff
...and I also drag race the car, and road trip it...that's the Mustang, it's a do-everything car....
I had Poly LCAs out back and rubber Roush UCA. Good improvement there but the SRA and the body were always competing in corners to see which one could get to the ditch faster, especially on bumpy roads. I've got a BBP already so, some attention has been paid to handling by the factory. It's not perfect, as I outline but, it is ok for a road driven, daily car.
So, to deal with the dancing SRA, last week I burned out all the rubber in the panhard bar and the sway bar links and mounts and replaced it all with poly. 50 bucks worth of bushings and a bit of mess and time and the back end really seems tied to the car now. MUCH better than even the gains from the CAs. I've been told by handling-focussed folks the car needs more rear sway bar and since I already have the 24mm, upping its rate with stiffer bushings seemed worthwhile compared to replacing it. The factory panhard was a surprisingly sturdy piece, just the fluid-filled jello-shot bushings were the problem there.
Still think the dampers could use more rebound control but, that's down the road a bit, as everything is still working pretty satisfactorily...gotta get my money's worth out of the BBP stuff
...and I also drag race the car, and road trip it...that's the Mustang, it's a do-everything car....
I have Koni Yellows with GC's coilover kit. If you call them you can specify exactly what spring rate you want. The guy told me they have the "ride feel" option so they can get close to spec a spring for customers. We went with something pretty unconventional and they had no issue providing us with the spring rates we wanted at no additional cost.
Supposedly the dampers in GC's kit aren't as good as the Koni Yellows, the valving is different. This is just what I was told, which is why I purchased the Yellows and the coilover kit rather than their whole setup. I also have the MM camber plates and Strano's swaybars front and rear.
Little things can make a significant diff on Mustangs, that's alot of what I love about them.
I had Poly LCAs out back and rubber Roush UCA. Good improvement there but the SRA and the body were always competing in corners to see which one could get to the ditch faster, especially on bumpy roads. I've got a BBP already so, some attention has been paid to handling by the factory. It's not perfect, as I outline but, it is ok for a road driven, daily car.
So, to deal with the dancing SRA, last week I burned out all the rubber in the panhard bar and the sway bar links and mounts and replaced it all with poly. 50 bucks worth of bushings and a bit of mess and time and the back end really seems tied to the car now. MUCH better than even the gains from the CAs. I've been told by handling-focussed folks the car needs more rear sway bar and since I already have the 24mm, upping its rate with stiffer bushings seemed worthwhile compared to replacing it. The factory panhard was a surprisingly sturdy piece, just the fluid-filled jello-shot bushings were the problem there.
Still think the dampers could use more rebound control but, that's down the road a bit, as everything is still working pretty satisfactorily...gotta get my money's worth out of the BBP stuff
...and I also drag race the car, and road trip it...that's the Mustang, it's a do-everything car....
The car does not need more rear sway bar. Less if anything.
That depends on your spring rates and intended use for the car. For long steady state turns like an open track day I have my rear bar set soft. For autocross where I need it "loose" I stiffen up the rear bar. It helps the car rotate and transition quicker though it's a handful to drive at anything over 75-80mph(max autox speed).
If it is a handful why would you want the bar stiffer? Try running the car the way it is on the road course, you will probably be faster.
I only run the bar stiff for autocross where quick changes of direction are important. Think slaloms. For road course and daily driving I soften it up.
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