Didnt you used to run spray? If so, how would you compare it WOT to the paxton?
500 rwhp N/A package with Cobra Jet Parts Desired
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Yes I used to run nitrous and honestly the torque curve is just as flat, i only made 20 more tq on the 125 than I do with the stock pulley on the paxton. The nitrous setup would probably jump half a car but get reeled in hard by the current setup. I made 537tq stock pulley that's higher than what most make but I'm running e85.
Im sure e85 helps. Most kits Ive seen with just a 100 shot seem to put down atleast 550wtq some as high as 580-590wtq. I just feel like that would yank a centri car pretty good...just assuming here. What kit were you running?
It was just a universal wet kit... Picked up 130whp and 190tq on a 125 shot. Numbers on the shot were 551hp 563tq.
Nice numbers. Im trying to decide between spray or paxton. Not gonna spend the dough on a PD. I think the spray is a perfect compromise, torque and cost. But I see you went paxton after spray so its something to consider.
E85 and 9psi and I almost make the same torque and I make 130 more HP ALL THE TIME. That's on the biggest pulley(lowest boost). Everyone is different though and it really depends on what your plans are for the car.. Paxton is the best fit for my needs/wants.
To tell you the truth no. I never sprayed on the street.
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I agree 100%, especially when people drool to see what's in the picture below.
Exactly. And that car is 50x more streetable than a high compression NA car that makes big HP. That turbo car gets better MPGs than stock and drives around with perfect manners.
And when the big HP dyno car gets its butt handed to it on the dragstrip by a NA car that actually works. 
Which is more impressive a 9sec NA car or a 9sec power adder car? Fast is fast.
I love both forced induction cars and NA cars. I've built NA, Nitrous, Centrifugal and Positive Displacement supercharged cars. They all have their place with pros and cons.
Which is more impressive a 9sec NA car or a 9sec power adder car? Fast is fast. I love both forced induction cars and NA cars. I've built NA, Nitrous, Centrifugal and Positive Displacement supercharged cars. They all have their place with pros and cons.
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^^^^Agree. Each has it's own merit. 9's N/A is NASTY. But so is a 2ton turd w leather interior running the same number on pump. To ea their own.
Its not more money if you can spin a wrench on your own....
Only speaking for my particular situation here, already have full exhaust....
MMR Stage 3 port job $1000
Comp cams stage 2 NSR cams $1500
Boss Intake $500
Gaskets, fluids, shipping etc etc say $500
About $3500 for in the neighborhood of 500 RWHP N/A.
Only speaking for my particular situation here, already have full exhaust....
MMR Stage 3 port job $1000
Comp cams stage 2 NSR cams $1500
Boss Intake $500
Gaskets, fluids, shipping etc etc say $500
About $3500 for in the neighborhood of 500 RWHP N/A.
FI is cool, and a LOT easier way for most people to make HP, but there is nothing, and I do mean NOTHING, like a big horsepower NA setup. Even a FI setup that makes 600rwhp on the dyno will have a VERY hard time hanging with a 500rwhp NA combo in the real world. I've seen and done this numerous times. NA is set on kill 100% of the time!!
As much as I want to disagree I can't. I hate you.
There are more and more FI coyote's running around. Who can blame them? its just to easy to make 600-650whp with under $6K invested. That said, I agree with you that a properly set up N/A build would run with a FI car and would take WAY more people by surprise. The problem is even if a 5xxwhp NA car can beat a 600whp FI car, all the FI car has to do is change pulleys/boost levels and walla, instant 50-150more whp. That said I am still debating on doing cams and full exhaust vs a blower this summer. Something is just fun about being NA. Also, the first thing people who want to race ask is if I'm FI, when I say no then they are a lot more interested in doing some runs. Seems like as soon as you tell someone you have a blown Coyote they get scared, at least around here.
I agree with everything you said.
Part of the reason the heads/cam set up is so cool is that every swingin dick on the block has/will have FI. It is the easy way to go. For many it is also the cheapest way to go. Not for me as I will do the entire install myself free of labor cost. So I see it as a double bonus.... building a different than the norm combo that is flat out bad ass.... and doing it cheaper than the cookie cutter Paxton.
A very good friend of mine has a 2000 WS6 LS1 car. It has an Incon twin turbo, heads, cam, suspension etc. We were talking about this heads/cam set up on my ride and he reminded me that I still wont be able to pull his Pontiac. Then he added.... "You know, if you took that 520 rwhp and hit it with a 100 or 150 N2O shot I would not want to race it"
I suppose that is my response to the "the paxton guy can just pulley up" take... Well, for very little additional cost (still less than I would have into the paxton) I can 100 shot the car and take it to another level also.
People will think what they will. I think its a great option and I am going that route. Now if I can just get my bride to let me get rolling on it before I build our deck I will be all set lol.
I forget the company, but there was talks of a sleeved/stroked combo that took a Coyote block out to 351ci. That, with stout heads, cams, and sheetmetal intake would tear up things.
From my perspective, Michelins are the best tires on the market. Their Pilot Sport series are great tires. I think for you, find the widest wheels you can fit on that car and run the widest tires you can run on them. The Pilot Sport Super Sports should do alright for you. Those are the tires being run on the new GT500 I believe, as well as the Shelby GT350, and I also think the boss 302 uses them as well(maybe just the leguna seca version though...not sure). I think Pirelli's are junk. I've had two sets and they didn't last long or hook well. They remind me of a Sumitomo tire...except 4x more expensive. Best of luck getting your setup finished with the right set of shoes!
throw a hidden bottle on that bitch and just tell every one its na.... it would be at least $5000 cheaper
The RIGHT NA setup is extremely hard to beat.
That's what people told me all the 6 years i had my last foxbody before i sold it. 331 stroker all motor n/a 11.3@120mph and you know what i was the only one in the whole group of my friends that still have a perfect working engine after 6 years of beating on it.
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