NHTSA open up investigation on the MT82

[kdanner]

Seems his BS is not wanted elsewhere also. The jmatero MT-82 Faulty Transmission Thread - The Mustang Source - Ford Mustang Forums

 

[flash0080]

Just thought I would drop in here and add some real facts on the issue; I am getting my THIRD transmission right now....

Supposedly this transmission has different gears(stated both the FSE and an Executive Liaison); we'll see.

Go ahead, state it's my driving, but I also have had a 2010 that didn't act this way nor any of my other manual vehicles; this is a GETRAG/Ford problem and there is no denying that.

It's not your driving. I bought one in may of 2011. Not a single issue. has 10,000 miles on it already.

My buddy bought his 2 weeks after mine. At 1700 miles the tranny started whining. Had it to the dealer around 3000 miles they replaced pressure plate bolts. Car at shop 3or 4 days. On the way home tranny got harder to get in gear. Took back to the shop where the service manager couldnt get it in gear either. Going on ten days now and they still havent got it fixed. Suppose to hear something by friday.

Out of 5 cars between where we work his is the only one that had a problem so far.

 

[jmatero]

Seems his BS is not wanted elsewhere also. The jmatero MT-82 Faulty Transmission Thread - The Mustang Source - Ford Mustang Forums

It was started by somebody who spent the past 6 months telling everyone there would never be a NHTSA investigation because I was the only one having problems.

How did that one work out for him?


:beer:

 

[hand-filer]

I left AFM because of these types of threads. Unfortunately it is spreading like a virus.
I appreciate factual information as much as the next person but when it takes on fervor like this I quickly become nauseated by it all.
Jmatero please go back to AFM. Your credibility is quickly waning and I think most of us have had quite enough.

 

[shadowstang03gt]

Seems his BS is not wanted elsewhere also. The jmatero MT-82 Faulty Transmission Thread - The Mustang Source - Ford Mustang Forums

thanks kdanner. I have no problem with someone that has a legit problem. But people like this posting on vw, gm, honda fit, hyundai, saturn, and every car made forum. Get a life. Some weirdo in a fit doesnt give two shits about a mustang. Its just so lame. Just makes more people think they have an issue when they dont. Im so glad our government is wasting time and money on a mustang. Half the people are complaining about grinding. wtf is that.

 

[kdanner]

It was started by somebody who spent the past 6 months telling everyone there would never be a NHTSA investigation because I was the only one having problems.

How did that one work out for him?


:beer:

I don't know, nor do I care. I just did a quick search on your username and you sure have quite the history of complaining online. Complaints about your phone, your internet, about televisions. And, most notably, a real history of complaining about transmissions/shifters/clutches on a variety of vehicles from different manufacturers, you use the word lemon fairly regularly. Then there's the things that when added together may or may not point to something else, your comments about owning a Miata, owning a scooter, San Francisco, and it's already clear you like to drive stick.

 

[cbaty08]

I left AFM because of these types of threads. Unfortunately it is spreading like a virus.
I appreciate factual information as much as the next person but when it takes on fervor like this I quickly become nauseated by it all.
Jmatero please go back to AFM. Your credibility is quickly waning and I think most of us have had quite enough.

I have the same mentality that you do in the sense I want true, factual information.

I haven't been on this issue (threads) for too long, as my car is only a few months old, but I can tell you that from what I have seen, Jmatero is trying to do good here.

Is he everywhere? YES! Does that annoy people who are using the thread to put in aftermarket speakers/lights/grilles/wheels/everything under the sun as they are clogged with this issue? YES! Am I thankful that there is a person out there who is spending countless hours to help get traction on Ford's problem? YES!!!!!!!!!

If he is stating something that is wrong/contradicting, by all means call him out...

But people who come in bashing him without any substance and bringing up irrelevant issues is petty; let's keep our heads up as fellow mustang owners and HELP individuals like myself resolve this problem.

I am going to provide as much info. on my venture(3rd tranny is on order) with this car everywhere I am also; for the sake of helping others diagnose the issue.

I grew up Ford my whole life, there are 4 Fords in the driveway currently(two which are mustangs: a 2010 GT prem. that is purring like a kitten and then my 2011 Base w/Brembo's) and I am not here to bash the Ford heritage. I do want to be the squeaky wheel in this whole thing, as I am confident in my knowledge of troubleshooting (I do it for a living), and trust my own input on the problem as a whole.

Let's try to be constructive here.

 

[shadowstang03gt]

I don't know, nor do I care. I just did a quick search on your username and you sure have quite the history of complaining online. Complaints about your phone, your internet, about televisions. And, most notably, a real history of complaining about transmissions/shifters/clutches on a variety of vehicles from different manufacturers, you use the word lemon fairly regularly. Then there's the things that when added together may or may not point to something else, your comments about owning a Miata, owning a scooter, San Francisco, and it's already clear you like to drive stick.

awesome post. :rockon: im sure he eats bananas every morning for breakfast.

 

[shadowstang03gt]

I have the same mentality that you do in the sense I want true, factual information.

I haven't been on this issue (threads) for too long, as my car is only a few months old, but I can tell you that from what I have seen, Jmatero is trying to do good here.

Is he everywhere? YES! Does that annoy people who are using the thread to put in aftermarket speakers/lights/grilles/wheels/everything under the sun as they are clogged with this issue? YES! Am I thankful that there is a person out there who is spending countless hours to help get traction on Ford's problem? YES!!!!!!!!!

If he is stating something that is wrong/contradicting, by all means call him out...

But people who come in bashing him without any substance and bringing up irrelevant issues is petty; let's keep our heads up as fellow mustang owners and HELP individuals like myself resolve this problem.

I am going to provide as much info. on my venture(3rd tranny is on order) with this car everywhere I am also; for the sake of helping others diagnose the issue.

I grew up Ford my whole life, there are 4 Fords in the driveway currently(two which are mustangs: a 2010 GT prem. that is purring like a kitten and then my 2011 Base w/Brembo's) and I am not here to bash the Ford heritage. I do want to be the squeaky wheel in this whole thing, as I am confident in my knowledge of troubleshooting (I do it for a living), and trust my own input on the problem as a whole.

Let's try to be constructive here.

5 posts? another made up screen name from jmatero

 

[shadowstang03gt]

I left AFM because of these types of threads. Unfortunately it is spreading like a virus.
I appreciate factual information as much as the next person but when it takes on fervor like this I quickly become nauseated by it all.
Jmatero please go back to AFM. Your credibility is quickly waning and I think most of us have had quite enough.

:beer: nice post. SVT performance is def the best forum out there.

 

[cbaty08]

5 posts? another made up screen name from jmatero

Haha you are funny... with as much time as you have investigated in his screenname, I would have thought you would have looked me up by now.

Do it. I am me.

 

[cbaty08]

Kidding guys, but let's be real here; honestly.

 

[jmatero]

I don't know, nor do I care. I just did a quick search on your username and you sure have quite the history of complaining online. Complaints about your phone, your internet, about televisions. And, most notably, a real history of complaining about transmissions/shifters/clutches on a variety of vehicles from different manufacturers, you use the word lemon fairly regularly. Then there's the things that when added together may or may not point to something else, your comments about owning a Miata, owning a scooter, San Francisco, and it's already clear you like to drive stick.

Seriously? You're calling me "gay"? Really? LOL what are you, FIVE?

I'm constantly amazed how willingly people reveal their true selves online.

Awesome.

 

[jmatero]

awesome post. :rockon: im sure he eats bananas every morning for breakfast.

LOL

Did you call the clinic yet? There's help for this you know.

You have a rich history of calling people names. Shall I post your collection of zingers from other Mustang and Taurus threads here? How about the warnings from other admins and moderators after your bigoted rants?

 

[jmatero]

Haha you are funny... with as much time as you have investigated in his screenname, I would have thought you would have looked me up by now.

Do it. I am me.

He will. When I'm gone... he'll try to discredit the next person he thinks is anti-Ford or anti-Mustang.

 

[jj6077]

The title of this thread does not match the contents within it. Please stop flaming each other and post things that actually deal with the investigation. If everyone wants to talk shit on this jmatero please do so in a different thread.

 

[Graboid]

How the hell can someone fight with someone else online about what their car is or is not doing? The web rulz LOL. Guess it's like a car wreck some aholes just can't help but rubberneck even when they know not to look.

 

[NiteMareGT]

 

[Fat Boss]

That's a great question. If you rule out everything but the transmission, there are a number of possibilities. One thing that we know is that in most of the cases where the transmission has been rebuilt:

1. Pilot bearings were trashed
2. Synchronizers were trashed
3. Gear teeth were missing
4. Shift forks were bent

Now... we can only assume 2-4 were also the case in cars with replacement transmissions.

Now... add to that... NOBODY has posted yet that a transmission rebuild or replacement was a permanent fix... the issues returned.

One possibility that has been discussed is that there may be a motor/transmission alignment issue. This would explain why both the factory in China (if it's on the transmission side) AND Flat Rock (on the motor side) haven't identified any issues. BUT bolt the motor and transmission together... and drive a few thousand miles... BAM. Misalignment would also explain the trashed pilot bearings and bent shift forks... etc.

This would ALSO explain why some of these are train wrecks and others are flawless.

Again, this is all guess-work and we'll have to wait and see what the NHTSA and Ford come up with.

Anything is possible, but mis-alignment is pretty low for me. Everything in an engine or trans is based on centerline and to miss by that much on modern CNC equipment would be a travesty to the technology. There's no reason it couldn't be + or - .002" or better, alot better in fact. (FYI I spent 4 years making precision prototype parts, in some cases machining parts to + or - .0002" I think you'd need more than .020" or more to have a problem there. It totally could happen though. Just an error in the setup would cause it. But really unlikely.

Is anyone having it pop out of 5th? That's the direct drive gear and the forces on the gears is different in that its not being sent through the cluster gear. At least that's the way a lot of traditional transmissions are made. Last fall my ZF6 (the 230 lb truck one) in my 99 F250 PowerStroke started popping out of gear under decel. It had about 275k miles on it so I bought a NEW one to put in (from Canada since Ford US didn't carry NEW only USED.) Anyway the trans I think was fine. The Kevlar pilot bushing was waaaay enlarged, and was allowing the input shaft to get misaligned a bit and the result was popping out of the direct drive gear.

Only the guys doing the "autopsy" know for sure on the MT82's at this point.

I'd love to see an exploded diagram of the trans if anyone has a pic/image.

Send me a PM and maybe I can stop by sometime.

Andy

 

[jj6077]

your post is win