whats the minimal thickness for rotors? I am replacing my street rotors and curious if i can use them for open track..... I know i dont want to have them turned but if there still within limit that will be a set of front rotors seasoned and ready for track pads.
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i use a two piece rotor set up. most racers i know use similar. brembo, stoptech or pfc. you cant use a street rotor. the cmc guys have to run the one piece and they throw them out every couple of race weekends.
maybe your definition of "track guys" doesnt include racers.
again....full tilt boogie racing. their slotted to fit brembo rings cost half of what the brembo costs.
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track guys and racers are definitely two different type of people! I'm wanting to get into auto X and open track for fun, nothing serious at all.
Brembo blanks start out at 1.10", and the min thickness is 1.04". They have a bit of a lip on them by that point.
i would just suggest that at the end of the straights at vir its serious unless you are coasting
Have any of you Ford guys tried the DBA 4000 or DBA 5000 rotors? Between my SCCA & NASA TT events and my instructing for HPDEs in the southeast I probly do about 70 to 80 track days a year in the Vette and I have had excellent results from the DBA rotors. If you talk to the guys over at Carbotech about what they recommend they will tell you DBA hands down. yeah they are a little pricey but in the long run they are more economical than the often replaced Centrics/Napa/Raybestos OEM replacemen rotors.
Can't say that Iv'e ever heard of them
hmm the dba 5000 claims to have a 12 month 12k mile warranty and they say that there meant for the race track. Z06xr can you comment on this warranty ad track use?
hmm the dba 5000 claims to have a 12 month 12k mile warranty and they say that there meant for the race track. Z06xr can you comment on this warranty ad track use?
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I've heard good things about DBA but have no firsthand knowledge.
I've never tried to use their warranty so I won't comment on that but they are very respected among the Vette racers. What I can comment on is that I was using the cheaper Chinese rotors at about a third of the cost until I decided to try out the DBA 4000 rotors. What I noticed right out of the box was that the rotor faces were thicker. This was accomplished by reducing the width of the venting. They also use a kangaroo paw pattern for the venting which has proven to be much stronger than the OEM vanes. Lastly they are made in Australia and use a higher quality and harder high carbon iron than the cheaper Chinese ones do. My experience has been that they are 3 times more expensive but last more than 3 times longer than Centric rotors.
I have cracked a ton of rotors in my day and it always worried me that one would disintegrate on the track. That is still a possibility but less likely with the DBA rotors.
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Do you still break them in like any other rotor/pad? I need two sets, one for the street and one for the track. I may try the 4000's but I think they are too much for just street rotors. I appreciate the link.
DBA rotors are great. There are several Boss owners that have or are using them. I'm not sure that they'll last three times as long...especially with aggressive pads. After putting on the FRPP cooling ducts, I'm not as worried about needing better rotors and will probably just use Ford rotors from here on.
The one thing I haven't seen anyone mention is that you will need 2 sets of rotors. One for street and one for track. Track pad material and street pad material are not compatible and will groove your rotors. Carbotech claims that you can run their street pads and race pads without rotor swaps, and I will find out this spring if that's true. One thing I can tell you is NOT to run their street compound on the track, they don't recommend it and I can attest to it. They will not last even one session.
Also, the XP10 I don't think is enough for a Mustang on track. Carbotech claims they are for cars weighing less than 2900 pounds. Here is the link to their compound explanations: Carbotech Performance Brakes
Also, the XP10 I don't think is enough for a Mustang on track. Carbotech claims they are for cars weighing less than 2900 pounds. Here is the link to their compound explanations: Carbotech Performance Brakes
Not so sure about the need for 2 sets of rotors. IMHO Aug 2013 will make 30 years of SCCA/NASA autocrossing, Time Trials, various track days, hillclimbing, and road racing. I've found matching the right pads for the right conditions is most important. Street pads for the street, racing pads for the track. As far as not being compatible, I've found the Hawk HPS work fine for street and a more aggressive pad (Blue to DTC-70) will cut any old HPS material pretty quickly. Switching back to HPS still grip fine. The groovey thing...happens when you try to use a track pad at street temps. I think I mentioned like having 2 rocks in your calipers and about as effective.
@David, what you are saying may be true nowadays. I know I was told by Carbotech that I could run their street pad and de-gassed XP series pads with no issues, and I will be trying that this year. I guess as more companies like Hawk and Carbotech start making both street and race pads it will be less necessary down the road. I plan to try out Carbotechs recommendation this year, so we'll see how it goes.
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I ended up purchasing Centric rotor from TireRack. I have not put them on the car yet. The quality seems to be very top notch when compared to other rotors that I have ran. Ther is minimal casting flash on them and even the vains are painted.
The feature I like the most about these is that the hat area. Centric has re-designed it to allow more airflow through the vains. When I install the rotors I will post up some pics to show you what I am talking about.
I ended up purchasing Centric rotor from TireRack. I have not put them on the car yet. The quality seems to be very top notch when compared to other rotors that I have ran. Ther is minimal casting flash on them and even the vains are painted.
The feature I like the most about these is that the hat area. Centric has re-designed it to allow more airflow through the vains. When I install the rotors I will post up some pics to show you what I am talking about.
***THESE ROTORS ARE SOLD***
I know how much you racers and open track guys love Brembo one pc 13" front SN-95 rotors because few rotors can compare with them. Unfortunately these are no longer available from Brembo. That's the bad news.
The good news is I have a set NIB for sale. This could be the last set in existence.
Here's a link to my for sale thread in the Market:
http://www.svtperformance.com/forum...9996-13-brembo-front-rotors-sn-95-fs-nib.html
I could deliver these to VIR at the SCMC event this Memorial Day weekend.
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I know how much you racers and open track guys love Brembo one pc 13" front SN-95 rotors because few rotors can compare with them. Unfortunately these are no longer available from Brembo. That's the bad news.
The good news is I have a set NIB for sale. This could be the last set in existence.
Here's a link to my for sale thread in the Market:
http://www.svtperformance.com/forum...9996-13-brembo-front-rotors-sn-95-fs-nib.html
I could deliver these to VIR at the SCMC event this Memorial Day weekend.
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Thanks, ive been looking for a pair of track rotors :beer:
Nice Bruce. Too bad you couldn't use them for a template and start producing them.
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