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Dirty little fact for you since your head seems to be firmly planted in your ass:
The Real Crime Problem Doesn't Make Much News | Manhattan Institute
"Most violent crimes involve a perpetrator and victim of the same race. But when they don’t, incidents of black-on-white crimes far exceed the reverse scenario. “In 2012, blacks committed 560,600 acts of violence against whites (excluding homicide), and whites committed 99,403 acts of violence (excluding homicide) against blacks,” writes the Manhattan Institute’s Heather Mac Donald, citing federal Bureau of Justice Statistics data. “Blacks, in other words, committed 85 percent of the non-homicide interracial crimes of violence between blacks and whites, even though they are less than 13 percent of the population.”
With that being said, me and the vets and former LEO's in my neighborhood will defend each others houses both black and white equally in case of attack. Shitheads all look alike to me, regardless of race.
Dirty little fact for you since your head seems to be firmly planted in your ass:
The Real Crime Problem Doesn't Make Much News | Manhattan Institute
"Most violent crimes involve a perpetrator and victim of the same race. But when they don’t, incidents of black-on-white crimes far exceed the reverse scenario. “In 2012, blacks committed 560,600 acts of violence against whites (excluding homicide), and whites committed 99,403 acts of violence (excluding homicide) against blacks,” writes the Manhattan Institute’s Heather Mac Donald, citing federal Bureau of Justice Statistics data. “Blacks, in other words, committed 85 percent of the non-homicide interracial crimes of violence between blacks and whites, even though they are less than 13 percent of the population.”
With that being said, me and the vets and former LEO's in my neighborhood will defend each others houses both black and white equally in case of attack. Shitheads all look alike to me, regardless of race.
Since you are trashing everyone in this thread including Cops and Republicans......
Irony much?
Yes, it absolutely should. Until scumbags stop beating little old ladies, stop vandalizing our landmarks, small businesses etc.....you get zero sympathy or recognition. See, your side is filled with cowards. Your side stays where they know the liberals will protect them, and they prey on the weak. You know law abiding citizens will not travel to these areas with firearms and take you out, and you like to threaten but not act on coming to our neighborhoods because you know this will end very very quickly. And the longer this goes on, the longer your scumbag Democrat shitbags keep this in the news......the less chance you have to win in November.
But I seriously have to thank your side for a few things, one of them is that the argument that you don;t need a gun or an AR15......well that notion is forever gone.
So how do the police reform in the middle of the riots? Or are they not to be part of the reform?Totally irrelevant to police brutality but whatever.
If by trashing cops, you mean calling out systemic problems that keep resulting in unarmed people getting killed by cops, then fine. If by trashing Republicans (even though i didnt use that term in here) you mean disagreeing with people in here, thats called a dialogue.
Literally no one here is saying its okay that people are rioting and looting and engaging in violence. Its a strawman argument. But these are two different things. And the thing is, no matter how many nights of riots there are, it doesnt change that problems exist that lead to George Floyd and so many others before him being killed at the hands of police. That officer should not have knelt on Floyd's neck for nearly nine minutes until the man was limp and dead. That is a problem that needs to be fixed, and that problem doesnt evaporate just because some people rioted. So you have the choice of either being mad about the riots but also admitting theres a problem that needs to be fixed, or you can be mad about the riot and try to justify that officer's action. There is no middle ground. And once you admit theres a problem, are you really going to try to tell we as a society just let a problem exist because some people did crime?
See, there ya go. You are lumping everyone together. Millions of peaceful protestors with a greievence that is by your own admission legitimate, but you tar them all with the feather of a few agitators to defend a thread where some people seemed more than a bit too excited to "lock and load" and violently react to the protests.
Feel good story of the day, it went well with my coffee.this is only going to happen more often. people are getting fed up
South Philly gunstore owner guarding shop overnight shoots, kills armed looter: report
Heres that middle ground ive aluded to. The riots have to stop. Like I said, nobody is trying to excuse the riots. Those people suck. And peaceful protesters are out there literally standing infront of stores, shouting and vandals, trying to get them to stop. Police will do what they gotta do to shut those people down. Nobody disagrees about that. The problem is if those agitators are used as an excuse to clamp down on legitimate protest or as an excuse for ignoring the problems that lead to the protest in the first place. Which is why I chimed in here.So how do the police reform in the middle of the riots? Or are they not to be part of the reform?
Im an extraordinarily pedantic person, but come onA “few” agitators? So “3”?
Have you not turned in the news at night? Pretty hard to fake the videos of groups of people looting, burning, and assaulting cops all night.
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**** your protests and your ilk.Heres that middle ground ive aluded to. The riots have to stop. Like I said, nobody is trying to excuse the riots. Those people suck. And peaceful protesters are out there literally standing infront of stores, shouting and vandals, trying to get them to stop. Police will do what they gotta do to shut those people down. Nobody disagrees about that. The problem is if those agitators are used as an excuse to clamp down on legitimate protest or as an excuse for ignoring the problems that lead to the protest in the first place. Which is why I chimed in here.
So people you disagree with should be shot en masse in the streets? No trial, no charges, just shoot any one protesting?**** your protests and your ilk.
Have fun talking to the wrong end of a military weapon from here on out-you pussies have absolutely earned it.
If there is a problem, and there are solutions, why should it matter that some people are taking advantage of the protests to incite violence? Its tragic that some people are being violent, but the problems with police brutality need to be addressed. The presence or absence of some violence at the protests is irrelevant to either the identification of the problem or the implementation of solutions to the problem.
Because legitimate protest is different from a bunch of anarchists destroying black owned businesses, injuring hundreds and causing widespread fear. Dialogue cannot occur in a panicked state. The fact of the matter is that the hyper-partisan non-stop rhetoric and demonization from the MSM has caused a large part in this. For those thinking that they have the upper hand, this ends badly for you either in jail or worse if this does not stop.
As far as your earlier postings about what needs to be changed.....many things you left out. Community policing started in San Francisco. How is that working out there today? Without enforcement of laws, it fails miserably.
If you want to change things start with:
1. Scale back Qualified Immunity. This is headed to the Supreme Court and needs to be drastically scaled back and reworded.
2. National minimum basic standards: In some areas of the country a 4 year degree is required to g to the academy and join the force. In other poorer areas, someone might be on the streets for a year before they are sent to the academy and tied with low pay.....bad things happen. No one should be on the street enforcing laws.
3. Investigate legitimate brutality cases at the state level.
4. Create a DOJ arm to deal with ALL cases where a person dies at the hand of police or corrections officials. This alone would stop a good chunk of needless deaths.
5. Make the force continuum uniform across the board. Years ago when I worked Corrections I used a knee to the throat to gain control of a double murderer that attacked me near his bunk. I had no choice in the matter, but I relieved pressure immediately upon cuffing him. A minimum set of training standards should have to be met before a person can ever take to the streets. I see to many cops these days that do not want to use hands on someone when threatened and resort to tasers or worse.
6. Make a uniform complain process nationwide. No more stop gap, political coverups or departments investigating themselves. Stop the feel good political hiring, the hiring of people with criminal records (thanks Obama) and people with PTSD that think they are still on the battlefields. All you have to do is look at the new Orleans police of the 80's, it was widely regarded as the most corrupt PD in the country and was taken over by the Feds.
7. Thin out how many departments we really need. If your basic function is to do traffic duty, collect fines and revenue for your town.....we don;t need your police force. Take Ferguson Missouri for an example, the people rioted because of egregious violations of their civil liberties....from massive fines for having grass 1/2 inch too tall, impounding cars with hefty fines for being too close to the curb etc. Their police force was a revenue stream for the town council and their ridiculous salaries.
8. Reform the asset forfeiture laws. Do I have to say anything about this?
What i think is inconsequential at this point.So people you disagree with should be shot en masse in the streets? No trial, no charges, just shoot any one protesting?
Yup. Someone questioned I have a supressed SBR that folds into a backpack last month ("nobody needs that").....that same person (along with 3 others) texted me Sunday night asking where is a good place to buy a firearm. That backpack I'm carrying to work during all of this doesn't just contain my laptop and gym clothes.I don't know why anyone would go near these areas that are out of control. However, for those that have no choice and others in general, don't overlook tools in the tool box.
If you have a CCW or live in a great place like AZ that doesn't require one, remember that this is an acceptable option:
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Be safe out there.