LOL at "all times"
Rice no doubt. Moss is not the 2nd best, imo.
In no particular order, I would put Harrison, Irvin and Andre and Calvin Johnson in front of Moss.
I agree, Moss DREAMS he could be mentioned in the top 5. He's crazy.
LOL at "all times"
Rice no doubt. Moss is not the 2nd best, imo.
In no particular order, I would put Harrison, Irvin and Andre and Calvin Johnson in front of Moss.
T.O a cancer according to who? I don't care how the media portrays an athlete. T.O NEVER had off the field drama and he was a team player. T.O production can not be denied period. He's a better route runner than Moss, he actually blocks downfield and he never took plays off like Moss. I think moss just plays/played football because he was good at it and not because he loved the game. He's basically the Tracy Mcgrady of the NFL, had the potential to be the greatest but didn't put in the work. He's still a top 5 reciever tho.
Calvin can and I think will be top 5 all time but it's WAY to early to put him there. He could have a career changing injury next year and his production could fall off. Let his career play out then place him where he needs to be.
And my bag, Irvin. On my list 3-5 can be reordered how ever you'd like and I'd probably agree.
T.O a cancer according to who?
TO is a cancer to a locker room. Ask the 49ers. He singlehandedly destroyed that locker room, in the end even mariuchi got canned. Garcia was solid and TO couldn't stand him. I really wish the Yorks would have kept Garcia and let TO walk. I guess it wasn't enough leaving the team, he then went on to claim Garcia was gay. Yeah great dude he is. **** TO, it's not surprising he ended up on reality tv.
to his teammates, to his QB, to his coaches, to his owner, to the team, to the goal (reaching the Super Bowl). that man could eat a lockerroom up faster than a fat woman allowed to run loose in an old country buffet.
he didn't get in trouble off the field, but he did have that attempted suicide debacle in Dallas where he od'd on some pills.
he killed many a team's chemistry, destroyed many team's playoff runs, and drove everyone nuts that was on those teams. guys couldn't wait to get rid of him. he was to the NFL..............
well...what I am to SVTP. :lol1:
And still, his production can't be denied.
And still, his production can't be denied.
He dominated his era, I get that...what you choose to ignore is the FACT that a player from the 30-40s is no where near the athlete/player of modern times.What portion of "NFL: Who Is The Best Receiver Of All Times?" don't you understand? Oh, I see... it's not the answer that YOU want… Go ahead, ignore the FACTS…
Like I said, "Next question"?
You make a good case. I think people forget just how good T.O. was and how Moss couldn't and didn't do a lot of the things T.O. Too many took what happened in that one year in Philly and blew it out of proportion. And at the rate Johnson is going, he could end up being greater than Moss. Moss' first 6 years in the league were pretty insane though. Only Rice was better.
no one is arguing that you stupid ****. but stats alone don't get you anything and everything and a free pass.
on the field, off the field, in the lockeroom, professional life, personal life...all plays a factor.
no one is arguing that you stupid ****. but stats alone don't get you anything and everything and a free pass.
on the field, off the field, in the lockeroom, professional life, personal life...all plays a factor.
You better hope Planter sticks around...he keeps you from being the biggest idiot on here.You really don't know what you are talking about. You bring so many things into this that have nothign to do with T.O. as a player on the field. You're actually starting to sound like 2001C5 right about now. You should shut it down for 2013 already.
Chris Collinsworth.
Jerry Rice even said himself that Moss was a better athlete with more physical gifts than he had, but Moss would never outwork him. If Moss had Rice's drive and work ethic there's no doubt in my mind he would have been the greatest of all time, but he didn't.