NFL Players Want To End The NFL
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I still find the NFL to be highly entertaining. Incredible athletes, incredible talent. My biggest problem is with the players and their attitudes. Showboating after every play, never know when to just keep their mouths shut, respect me even though I show no respect, selfishness, not to mention the crime rate in the NFL.
I watch less and less NFL every year for all the reasons listed. Much prefer NCAAF and NHL. The majority of NFL players obviously work extremely hard and want to win.
The small SJW players that feel they must use their platform for political or personal reasons need to STFU and do their job. They’re the ones ruining it along with their pussy owners/GMs that don’t have the balls to keep them in line.
No one gives a ****, just throw and catch the ball
The small SJW players that feel they must use their platform for political or personal reasons need to STFU and do their job. They’re the ones ruining it along with their pussy owners/GMs that don’t have the balls to keep them in line.
No one gives a ****, just throw and catch the ball
My entire outlook on professional sports changed back in '93 or '94 when MLB went on strike. In other words I pretty much turned it all off but I do love me some of the old highlight shows and such that were on espn in the 80's with that man with the memorable voice who narrated the shows. Hell, I even loved when those shows would have the "you make the call" segment. I can only assume the NFL is a joke at least from what people say about how petty it has become.
are you ****ing kidding me? some of these ass holes are bitching about 20 mill a year. I'm sorry but these guys are WAY over paid. There is NO loyalty in the NFL anymore, and it ****ing pisses me off. Back in the day, the players took the money they were offered, and they stayed put for YEARS. And now, there is no loyalty whatsoever.
The shit show that is the NFL seems to be full steam ahead. I am making a prediction that within 15 years it will have worse ratings than the WNBA.
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Meh, there is a draft every year that makes prima dona players 1 step closer to irrelevant.
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Average career span of an NFL starting running back is generally 3-5 years. They get hit so many times, mess up their backs, ankles, knees, shoulders, heads/brains etc.
So for 3-5 years, they are used as a human punching bag simply for the purpose of winning rich old men a metal trophy and bragging rights. These teams and owners are all valued in the high millions/billion, the franchises even more, and yet they're assholes for asking for millions, which is a microfraction of what the franchise makes in a year?
Yea, you need to check your math. The only thing that makes it worth it to these guys risking life long injury is the money. No one would risk permanent brain injury for 100k a year and no long term guarantees of care.
I think you've forgotten the part where this career is their choice. If you don't want to be a human punching bag, get a degree in a legitimate field. They aren't owned millions just because the owners are worth billions. That's classic socialist bullshit right there.
When the owner is making millions off your jerseys, ticket sales, face, name, and more, paying you 10-15m a year is nothing to them. The better you perform, the more money they make. It's the definition of an athletic version of a sales job. The fact you compared it to socialism is laughable and completely asinine.
The level of athleticism, talent, and more required to perform like they do isn't easily purchased. It's commodity that is in rare supply. If it's "Not that big of a deal" then there would be a Jerry Rice on every team but there's not. They sell themselves and their talent. It's worth a lot of money to a lot of people. Nothing wrong with that in the slightest
NFL wanted a cap so they could cap the money to the players but not themselves.
I don't spend money on the NFL as in Sunday ticket, actual tickets or jerseys. I still watch the Cowboys but not the Dolphins as they are tanking.
Holdouts have always occurred. For example Emmitt Smith went without a contract in 1993 until the Cowboys went 0-2 and Jerry caved into his contract demands. I think now with social media and the NFL/providers trying to feed you news 24/7 you just get overloaded with sports news.
Every day the NFLN or ESPN would talk about Zeke missing camp. I stopped watching all the pregame/weekly shit due to it just being a bunch of crap/overload.
The holding part is simply the refs calling holding penalties when in the past they wouldn't. Solution? Stop holding.
The NFL doesn't have fully guaranteed contracts. There's a signing bonus, partial guarantees and full guarantees, which sometimes come with stipulations or are only covered for injury.
So, a 5 year 100 mil deal doesn't mean the player will get 100mil pre tax. Especially since it's rare players play through second contracts.
The NFL will go nowhere anytime soon. They own the sports viewership market. IIRC some regular season games get more views than the NBA finals.
The concussion issue won't hurt the league. Middle class to upper class parents may hold their kids out but there are tons of lower class kids who will play to get money.
XFL will have a large hurdle to survive a season or two.
I don't spend money on the NFL as in Sunday ticket, actual tickets or jerseys. I still watch the Cowboys but not the Dolphins as they are tanking.
Holdouts have always occurred. For example Emmitt Smith went without a contract in 1993 until the Cowboys went 0-2 and Jerry caved into his contract demands. I think now with social media and the NFL/providers trying to feed you news 24/7 you just get overloaded with sports news.
Every day the NFLN or ESPN would talk about Zeke missing camp. I stopped watching all the pregame/weekly shit due to it just being a bunch of crap/overload.
The holding part is simply the refs calling holding penalties when in the past they wouldn't. Solution? Stop holding.
The NFL doesn't have fully guaranteed contracts. There's a signing bonus, partial guarantees and full guarantees, which sometimes come with stipulations or are only covered for injury.
So, a 5 year 100 mil deal doesn't mean the player will get 100mil pre tax. Especially since it's rare players play through second contracts.
The NFL will go nowhere anytime soon. They own the sports viewership market. IIRC some regular season games get more views than the NBA finals.
The concussion issue won't hurt the league. Middle class to upper class parents may hold their kids out but there are tons of lower class kids who will play to get money.
XFL will have a large hurdle to survive a season or two.
Asking owners to pay more to employees simply because "it's nothing to them" is the very definition of socialism, sorry. The amount of money an individual player makes for an owner is a fraction of a fraction of a percent. The NFL is a hobby for most owners. They made their billions elsewhere.
Even assuming it was significant, that doesn't automatically mean they're entitled to more money. The fact is, nobody gets what they're owed, or what they deserve, only what they have the leverage to negotiate for. Ironically, players actually have leverage. But, they're more concerned about having fewer practices, and the right to smoke a joint than they are negotiating for bigger contracts. Just look at the last CBA negotiations. I believe if they really wanted to, and they banded together, they could hold out until their piece of the revenue was much larger. But, nah....most are too dumb, and/or don't have the financial ability to do so because they spend all their money on gold grilles, dubz, and weed. So, really, their "small" contracts are their fault.
Lastly, the rank and file players can mostly be replaced by any decent FBS/FCS player. There are only maybe 25 - 30 truly irreplaceable players in the league at any given time out of a total of ~1600. The NBA is a much better example of the point you're trying to make.
typical socialist ignorance...
Actually, it's called capitalism. If a guy comes out of college (say for interest Ezekiel Elliot), he can run faster longer farther and has the stats to prove it, he will be in demand. Teams are bidding on his talent and his athleticism. Whoever pays the highest gets him. Called supply and demand. He's taking advantage of what he has to offer the market, and if a team values him at 15 million a year, that's their prerogative. If they don't, he can go to another team that does.
That's literally the definition of everything crazy ass far right nut swingers love.
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" No one would risk permanent brain injury for 100k a year and no long term guarantees of care."
Except guys like Pat Tillman, I guess.
Except guys like Pat Tillman, I guess.
No actually they enter a draft and depending on where they get picked they work on a pay scale and are in a contract for sometime. They can renegotiate while in contract with said team. Jerry signed him to more money but could’ve held out and Zeke probably could’ve sat.
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" No one would risk permanent brain injury for 100k a year and no long term guarantees of care."
Except guys like Pat Tillman, I guess.
Except guys like Pat Tillman, I guess.
You were suggesting the owners should pay them more just because they have more money, and it's "nothing to them". THAT is socialism.
If the owner voluntarily pays him more because he wants to win, or the player has the leverage to negotiate for it, or some other reason other than just because the owner has more money, then your example applies.
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