They could just tie it to the cars ECU and basically make it impossible to bypass... if they wanted. A separate standalone system could fix that, but would cost $$$.
Mandatory Black Box in All New Cars
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They could just tie it to the cars ECU and basically make it impossible to bypass... if they wanted. A separate standalone system could fix that, but would cost $$$.
That's basically all it is. Extra memory in the ECU to maintain a record or past events.
I'm going in July...
Just another reason to keep my 03 Cobra.
Forever.
Forever.
Yep, looks like i'll be sticking to used rides, or early '11 5.0's.
"Similar in concept to the familiar black boxes used in commercial aircraft for decades, the boxes are expected to record information about speed, seat belt use and brake application in the final seconds leading up to an accident, the data can be retrieved for later analysis"
hasnt this been in place for a while now in most cars? :shrug: our 2004 cobras have this in it, fords since 1999 and gm cars have had it in their cars since 1996 (?)
i forget the years exactly but we had discussed this in depth on here a few years ago, i will try to find the thread.
but iirc, this has already been in place, the only news is that now all new cars sold MUST have it
hasnt this been in place for a while now in most cars? :shrug: our 2004 cobras have this in it, fords since 1999 and gm cars have had it in their cars since 1996 (?)
i forget the years exactly but we had discussed this in depth on here a few years ago, i will try to find the thread.
but iirc, this has already been in place, the only news is that now all new cars sold MUST have it
and it would never pass an OBDII diagnostic emissions test.
:lol:
CPRsm
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The argument could be made that the lack of cats would effect others. I can't see the same for the box.
You mean the mailbox that is owned by the fed gov ?
01cobravortech
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I guess I'm going to be buying pre June 2011 cars for the rest of my life.
There is no argument to be made if they make tampering with a black box a federal crime.
I mean, you could drag it into supreme court, but the whole "it's my property" isn't much of an argument if there is a law against it.
Did you guys miss the part where it was pointed out that your cars/trucks likely have black boxes already?
Exactly.... im surprised it took the second page for someone to ask this.
How do we know for sure that our cars dont already have these black boxes?
I know my 97 gts doesn't :rockon:
Unless you've removed the controller for the airbags it does.
If it did, I would be getting a lot of tickets through my mail. Plus mine came from Canada, they dont care. :lol1:
BTW, i'm still on the first page, 40 posts per page ftw!!
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how? the law doesnt require you to own a car
The law doesn't require you to own a house either, so how about putting a video camera in every room in your house which is streamed to the local authorities so they can 'monitor' you in case you are getting robbed or doing something illegal? You wouldn't even be able to take a shower without having a camera watch you. Tempering with the cameras or trying to hide things from them is a federal offense. The black box is heading in a similar direction as my scenario imo.
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01cobravortech
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Mine was removed a few years back. I cut off "Big Brother's" legs when I get a chance.
"Black Boxes" were discussed extensively way back in late 2004. The discussion went on for weeks.
And I posted several lists that broke down the cars that had such devices by year, model, and capabilities.
The 2003 & 2004 Cobra Mustangs did not have any such devices or capability.
And since I know that I have never added any such device myself, and I have never had my car serviced at a Ford garage (where the Government could have snuck one in) I am pretty sure that I (and many others) are still safe.
However, you are free to research this for yourself, since newer cars probably have more nanny boxes than older cars.
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