So is the UAW giving you what they are asking from the BIG 3 while you're on strike?
Ford GM Stellantis UAW Strike
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Good thing I got my C8. Of course yesterday I toasted a spark plug wire, so parts are a concern too. $30 for a single plug wire…. Sorry to derail.
Plug wire? Maybe a coil pack.
Thinking about you and your family, along with all of the other UAW members. I hope you guys get it figured out.
Honestly, I think it's pretty ****ed that Fain said he wouldn't begin negotiations until Monday. Members on strike won't receive their first $500 until midnight next Friday.
UAW is playing politics. Said they would strike all three, and they are, but they are doing targeted strikes. They are trying to keep their surplus of money from running out this way.
Oh for sure.
What Fain should've done...
Strike the engine and transmission plants. Allow the other plants to continue, they'd have enough surplus for 10 days or so of work. At that point the manufacturers will be paying them 80% wages and they won't be working.
I'm anti-union. Collective complacent union work isn’t good for anybody. the worker, business, the product, the consumer. all unionization does is guarantee a complacent worker that doesn’t have any motivation to perform better than the people next To them. It's all about money for the union. Are there ever any benefits in the contract for the businesses for these increases, such as better or more production, or higher quality of products for the money they are spending on these contracts?
I hear that thought process. I think the union had its place years ago before it became as easy to litigate over bad working environments. Now, I think they serve less of a purpose.
I know tons of people that work at the KC F-150/Transit plant. There are some good workers that really care about what they do and take pride in it, then there are those that go to work to hangout and **** around.
Better wages/retirement should hopefully increase the number of people who take pride in their work, and decrease the need to hire the idiots.
I know tons of people that work at the KC F-150/Transit plant. There are some good workers that really care about what they do and take pride in it, then there are those that go to work to hangout and **** around.
Better wages/retirement should hopefully increase the number of people who take pride in their work, and decrease the need to hire the idiots.
I worked for a company with a pilot union. They would fly x amount of hours per day and sit around the pilot lounges and complain non stop for the remainder of the day and remind you daily what was in their contract. It was ridiculous. I say fire them all but I understand it's not that simple.
Better pay and such doesn't always equal out to better output. A person must be willing to start at the bottom and work their way up, proving themselves. Most of todays workforce wants everything for very little or nothing in return on their part. The union allows for those that do to suffer beside those who don't either way. This kills the whole production by making people who do care getting fed up with a situation and moving on, leaving only those who are leaches to keep on leaching.
Curious how non-unions like Tesla fare. They still have quality issues, but perhaps that's more of a non-human manufacturing process or materials used factor rather than a complacent line worker making $100k to sit on his/her phone all day.
Except for some Government jobs.
I hired a new guy in January and he is eligible for a full pension if does his time.
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Sally Struthers said it correctly: "Do you want to make more money? Sure, we all do."
The CEO or the person filling the machines in the break room wants as much as they can get. 21 million dollars is ridiculous and even more considering Ford comes begging the government for our money. $70k is more reasonable depending on what the individual does to earn that compensation of course. Speaking of the price of Ford vehicles, I'd imagine w/o a rebate plan (whatever it is called) the workers would be car poor paying for an F150 even with $70k. Even with a plan it has to be tough. With the exception of a few, most car companies have lost sensibility when it comes to price.
All of us know there are three sides to every story but it seems to me the large, well off company is always the first to cry poverty.
Go tour the Toyota plant Georgetown KY, then the Ford truck plant in Louisville, KY. Two COMPLETELY different environments. Like night and day different. Culture, attitudes, values, working relationships between salaried and hourly, etc. You'd have no idea that they are both in the exact same business.
I'll let you figure out which one is "better"
You wonder if anyone at Ford, GM or Stellantis have run the numbers for worst case scenario. I.E. it would be cheaper to pull out of union states and relocate down South and bust the union. Almost none of their parts suppliers are still union. I mean, look at the stellar job the UAW did with Yellow.
Let's face it, if EV bans become reality, no way the legacy car makers survive against Tesla, KIA, Hyundai and the Chinese makes with those wage disparities.
Let's face it, if EV bans become reality, no way the legacy car makers survive against Tesla, KIA, Hyundai and the Chinese makes with those wage disparities.
Ok hopping in the car and will report back asap
I installed headers and one of the wires touched the pipe. It's burned.
I don't think it would be that easy. They already have plants in the semi-south and they are organized. The collective missery and toxic relationships built over decades have forever linked them together and I think they are attached at the hip. The UAW would follow them to Alaska is that's where they relocated.
Remember the videos of them smoking dope and crushing beers on break down the street from the factory….
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Clearly only on the Silverado production line......
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