I had the same experience recently. Local dealership (there are MANY that do this) had all kinds of BS dealer add-ons that were a) WAY too marked up, and b) I didn't want a single one of them. I told them I'd buy right now if they removed all that BS. They didn't care, let me walk right out. That's fine, I bought 2 vehicles from a different dealership that had no BS add-ons.Doesnt always happen. They even ran my relatives credit, above 750, they didnt budge. We left, they didnt care. So I just steer away from them in general. Could be a huge waste of time especially if its a far drive.
I didn’t compare them.
I have a 13 GT500.
I had a 14 and an 08.
I said I have experience with the Flappy paddle set up. The Explorer ST is not a minivan. Dismiss it all you want, it’s a Ford Performance Vehicle.
I don’t get why the 2020+ guys get so bent when someone doesn’t go GooGoo GaaGaa over their rides…
Let’s hijack this shall we? Since you wanted to roll down this road I’m all for pushing it off the cliff.
1. The 2020+ GT500 has no input from Carroll Shelby. That is something of a sticking point to me. It bears the Shelby name. Nothing more.
2. The Carbon Fiber Track Pack makes the damn thing look like it belongs in Fast and Furious: Tokyo Drift. It’s so riced out I just can’t stomach it.
3. No manual. I don’t feel apart of the car or the driving experience if I’m not banging gears.
4. It’s MASSIVE. 4,183lbs compared to the 13 weighing 3,850… 333lbs is a lot.
5. It’s not a factory 200mph car. Congrats Ford, you spent years fine tuning the GT500 to be slower than the version 7 years older.
I just can’t justify making that trade for a vehicle I personally don’t see at an improvement to my driving experience.
Now, rip apart that comparison all you want. It’s GT500 to GT500. Nothing for you to bitch and moan about apples to oranges/Coupe to SUV.
Have at it.
Yes, the random Chinese lockdowns affecting suppliers worldwide. The pressure on companies to take a hard look at being in China intensifies with 2 years of getting screwed over getting old.
Has there been a shortage of smartphones or laptops that I’m not aware of. Don’t most of them come from China and use chips?
I didn’t compare them.
I have a 13 GT500.
I had a 14 and an 08.
I said I have experience with the Flappy paddle set up. The Explorer ST is not a minivan. Dismiss it all you want, it’s a Ford Performance Vehicle.
I don’t get why the 2020+ guys get so bent when someone doesn’t go GooGoo GaaGaa over their rides…
Let’s hijack this shall we? Since you wanted to roll down this road I’m all for pushing it off the cliff.
1. The 2020+ GT500 has no input from Carroll Shelby. That is something of a sticking point to me. It bears the Shelby name. Nothing more.
2. The Carbon Fiber Track Pack makes the damn thing look like it belongs in Fast and Furious: Tokyo Drift. It’s so riced out I just can’t stomach it.
3. No manual. I don’t feel apart of the car or the driving experience if I’m not banging gears.
4. It’s MASSIVE. 4,183lbs compared to the 13 weighing 3,850… 333lbs is a lot.
5. It’s not a factory 200mph car. Congrats Ford, you spent years fine tuning the GT500 to be slower than the version 7 years older.
I just can’t justify making that trade for a vehicle I personally don’t see at an improvement to my driving experience.
Now, rip apart that comparison all you want. It’s GT500 to GT500. Nothing for you to bitch and moan about apples to oranges/Coupe to SUV.
Have at it.
Agreed.Whether it's a fp vehicle or not, it's paddles on an automatic and automatic that is at its power limits in that vehicle. While a dct shifts automatically it is still a clutch based transmission and it's shift mannerisms are vastly different.
This is my experience owning a dsg s4 and the follow in auto version with paddles.
Agreed.
But its still not stomping a clutch pedal, gripping a shifter, slamming it forward.
It doesn't feel like you're apart of the car.
Side note... My Focus has a DCT...
Anyway, its only one of many reasons Im not sold on the newer model GT500.
Mehhhh...Here you go, you can even stall the car with it
Someone reinvented the manual transmission. Here's how
Koeniggsegg reveals new technology
By Gary Gastelu | Fox News
Now you really can have it all, if you are willing to pay for it.
Swedish supercar builder Koenigsegg is using cutting edge technology to give its customers a very old-fashioned driving experience.
The company is known for its multi-million cars that are capable of reaching speeds in excess of 275 mph, but also breakthrough automotive innovations.
Its designed modern internal combustion engines that do not use camshafts and is a hybrid car with a single-speed transmission.
KOENIGSEGG JESKO SUPERCAR AIMS FOR 300 MPH WITH ‘LIGHT SPEED’ TECH
(Koenigsegg )
Now it has a nine-speed gearbox that can either work like an automatic transmission or a six-speed manual with a clutch pedal, depending on your mood.
It is similar to what is known as a dual-clutch automatic transmission, which typically does not have a clutch pedal and uses computers to switch between gears up or down almost instantaneously.
(Koenigsegg )
Koenigsegg's has seven clutches, however, and is not only faster at making changes, but can skip over gears for even better response during sporty driving.
However, it is set to make its debut in a new model called the CC850, which has a gated manual shifter with six speeds. Here is how it works.
The car is also equipped with a clutch pedal, which works by wire and is not directly connected to the transmission.
(Koenigsegg )
Instead, it uses force feedback to give the driver the sensation of engaging the clutch as it does exactly that without the computer intervening.
You can even stall it if you mess it up, but the idea is to make the driving itself a more engaging experience, as most high-end supercars have eliminated manual transmissions from their lineups altogether in a quest to maximize performance and meet efficiency regulations.
MORE PERFORMANCE CAR NEWS FROM FOX NEWS AUTOS
Another unique feature is that, since the transmission has nine speeds to play with, different modes have six different gear ratios that are optimized for street and track driving.
A Koenigsegg CC850 during the 2022 Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance in Pebble Beach, California, US, on Saturday, Aug. 20, 2022. Since 1950, the annual Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance has hosted the world's most beautiful and expensive collectible cars for a week of lavish parties, blue-chip auctions, glamorous rallies, and exclusive high-roller meetings. (David Paul Morris/Bloomberg via Getty Images)
The CC850 is powered by a turbocharged 5.0-liter V8 that is rated at 1,169 hp when running on gasoline and 1,366 hp one E85.
CLICK HERE TO GET THE FOX NEWS APP
The company has not said exactly how quick or fast it is yet, but founder Christian von Koenigsegg calls it the TWMPAFMPC, which is an acronym for The World’s Most Powerful And Fastest Manual Production Car.
Pricing has been revealed, however, and the number is nearly as long as that name, starting at around $3,600,000.
Peasant.Mehhhh...
I don't think I'm "refined" enough for a vehicle like that... Ill stick with my Shelby.
Mehhhh...
I don't think I'm "refined" enough for a vehicle like that... Ill stick with my Shelby.
So its a fake stick? It feels like a clutch but its fake pressure. Man, when they finally put this much effort into a doll, women might become obsolete. In the long run, the animated version would probably be cheaper, and could get "updates" as needed. Dude needs to focus on where the big business is. Sell to the masses, not the classes.
Mehhhh...
I don't think I'm "refined" enough for a vehicle like that... Ill stick with my Shelby and consider modding with a Turbo Encabulator, IDK.
Gen3R and other goodies when I finally get time to tear it down this winter.fixt
Here you go, you can even stall the car with it
Someone reinvented the manual transmission. Here's how
Koeniggsegg reveals new technology
By Gary Gastelu | Fox News
Now you really can have it all, if you are willing to pay for it.
Swedish supercar builder Koenigsegg is using cutting edge technology to give its customers a very old-fashioned driving experience.
The company is known for its multi-million cars that are capable of reaching speeds in excess of 275 mph, but also breakthrough automotive innovations.
Its designed modern internal combustion engines that do not use camshafts and is a hybrid car with a single-speed transmission.
KOENIGSEGG JESKO SUPERCAR AIMS FOR 300 MPH WITH ‘LIGHT SPEED’ TECH
(Koenigsegg )
Now it has a nine-speed gearbox that can either work like an automatic transmission or a six-speed manual with a clutch pedal, depending on your mood.
It is similar to what is known as a dual-clutch automatic transmission, which typically does not have a clutch pedal and uses computers to switch between gears up or down almost instantaneously.
(Koenigsegg )
Koenigsegg's has seven clutches, however, and is not only faster at making changes, but can skip over gears for even better response during sporty driving.
However, it is set to make its debut in a new model called the CC850, which has a gated manual shifter with six speeds. Here is how it works.
The car is also equipped with a clutch pedal, which works by wire and is not directly connected to the transmission.
(Koenigsegg )
Instead, it uses force feedback to give the driver the sensation of engaging the clutch as it does exactly that without the computer intervening.
You can even stall it if you mess it up, but the idea is to make the driving itself a more engaging experience, as most high-end supercars have eliminated manual transmissions from their lineups altogether in a quest to maximize performance and meet efficiency regulations.
MORE PERFORMANCE CAR NEWS FROM FOX NEWS AUTOS
Another unique feature is that, since the transmission has nine speeds to play with, different modes have six different gear ratios that are optimized for street and track driving.
A Koenigsegg CC850 during the 2022 Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance in Pebble Beach, California, US, on Saturday, Aug. 20, 2022. Since 1950, the annual Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance has hosted the world's most beautiful and expensive collectible cars for a week of lavish parties, blue-chip auctions, glamorous rallies, and exclusive high-roller meetings. (David Paul Morris/Bloomberg via Getty Images)
The CC850 is powered by a turbocharged 5.0-liter V8 that is rated at 1,169 hp when running on gasoline and 1,366 hp one E85.
CLICK HERE TO GET THE FOX NEWS APP
The company has not said exactly how quick or fast it is yet, but founder Christian von Koenigsegg calls it the TWMPAFMPC, which is an acronym for The World’s Most Powerful And Fastest Manual Production Car.
Pricing has been revealed, however, and the number is nearly as long as that name, starting at around $3,600,000.
As much as you’re on this site… you’d think you’d know an entire thread was made about this car
Agreed.
But its still not stomping a clutch pedal, gripping a shifter, slamming it forward.
It doesn't feel like you're apart of the car.
Side note... My Focus has a DCT...
Anyway, its only one of many reasons Im not sold on the newer model GT500.
I never said they were the same. I just said comparing an auto SUV with paddles and a true dct with performance characteristics isnt a good comparison. Neither is the dct in the focus.
True but.... there's no extra pedal with shift knob on DCT which I think its his point.I never said they were the same. I just said comparing an auto SUV with paddles and a true dct with performance characteristics isnt a good comparison. Neither is the dct in the focus.