tis true, I see myself lighting the tires up or babying it out the hole too much and lagging. I'll see if I cant come up with one, well see.rphinney said:WW I would come without the helmet if you want, If it is your first time at the track ever You will be surprised just how much it will take to get into the 13's, it takes practice, granted you should have ample power, just to give you an idea my vette ran 14.2 last time out, of course that was with wheel spin thru the 330'..........(it did trap 109) . I was not using a helmet in the L and I am still unsure if we are going to set Mad Mike up with one. It's not 100 percent they would park you if you went 13's and if they did my guess is it is going to take you a couple runs to get it there so it wouldnt be a total waste of 20 bucks.