Blew My Engine

[Flcracker]

Somewhere around that number. Got a price from a friend at the local Ford store of $1,965.00 for a 15-16 short block. OTOH seems like I read somewhere you had to change something in the cam drive system to make the 15-16 SB compatible with the 11-14 heads. Could be wrong on that though.

How is this possible? U must be talking about a used part since the Alumintor shortblock is around 5,000 and I imagine that the 15–16 shortblock is about the same price. I'm thinking that the quote you got was for the block without a rotating assembly.

 

[Flcracker]

Not exactly certain what caused it. Sounds like a broken rod. Probably too much HP on a stock engine. Trying to decide between an Aluminator short block or '15-'16 stock block. 700-725whp is enough for me. Ford Racing says the new stock engine has basically Boss rods and pistons. I can get an Aluminator SB for $3,500 ish. Not sure what the price is for the stock '15 SB.

Where can u get an Aluminator SB for that price?

 

[Flcracker]

Here is a nice longblock option from Power by the Hour for 7,000 which combines the 15–16 shortblock with 11 -14 timing components. http://pbhperformance.com/shop/pbh-coyote-longblock/

 

[T's03GT]

For that price there are options out there that will hold more than that... MPS sells a 1200hp setup for cheaper than that.

http://goturbo.net/coyote-mps-1200-shortblock.html#.V5po5vmAOko

That's H beams, waterjacket supports, Boss crank, etc...

 

[kona 199]

How much are the adoption fees, lol.

VERY NICE and highly respected reputation are not cheap.

 

[Flcracker]

Yes, I agree. I was just putting it out there because people seemed like they were interested in that set up. MPS, i'm starting to see their name around more lately. I'm going with MPR to build my shortblock (they have a great reputation and their local) which will have Diamond Pistons and Manley Billlet rods good for 900 whp. Man I'm really curious about this MPS offering. What a price!

 

[cjd223]

Can't you just swap in 2011-2014 cams into 2015+ heads and then run it?

Yes you can. I am hoping my heads are good. OTOH I am really torn as to what I want to do with the car. Aluminator short block with my heads and cams, 2015 short block with my heads and cams, or a 2011-2014 short block and put the car back stockish. If I went the later I would sell the car and Roush separately. The head unit will be repaired in about a week. The $1965 price is for a rotating assembly. Here's Tasca Ford's price. http://www.tascaparts.com/ford/must...engine-cat/engine-scat/?part_name=short-block

 

[cjd223]

I know I will be branded as a traitor if I go this route. This car belongs to a friend that lives in Winder. Was my next door neighbor when we both lived in Lawrenceville, GA. Car runs 7.40's with a 400 SBC. Engine is very mild, 268 Comp cam and cheap Iron Eagle heads. A better cam and AFR heads will add another 100hp. Yes, I can build a SBC with my eyes closed.

 

[vortecd]

For that price there are options out there that will hold more than that... MPS sells a 1200hp setup for cheaper than that.

http://goturbo.net/coyote-mps-1200-shortblock.html#.V5po5vmAOko

That's H beams, waterjacket supports, Boss crank, etc...

Looks like they went one more step with the water jacket supports then just screwing them in

 

[vortecd]

I know I will be branded as a traitor if I go this route. This car belongs to a friend that lives in Winder. Was my next door neighbor when we both lived in Lawrenceville, GA. Car runs 7.40's with a 400 SBC. Engine is very mild, 268 Comp cam and cheap Iron Eagle heads. A better cam and AFR heads will add another 100hp. Yes, I can build a SBC with my eyes closed. View attachment 71405

Looks like a down grade to me. Your car does everything better then a 30 year old car

 

[cjd223]

Maybe not. I was in discussion with Procharger a couple of months ago about one of their units. My plan was to sell the 400 sbc and go with a forged 383. Slap one of their F-1A units on = 900 whp. OTOH I kind of like this car.

 

[corepwn]

If you're interested in a rotating assembly, I have an 11-14 11:1 Aluminator set I could sell.

Boss crank, the 11:1 Mahle pistons, and the Manley H beams with ARP 2000 bolts.

I was going to put into a new block and sell as a shortblock down the road but this could work too I suppose.

PM if you're interested.

 

[Riptide]

I have enough traction problems on the street with a 27" MT R series as it is and this car only traps 130 on pump. I must be one of those weirdos that "has enough" horsepower to maintain happy state. lol

If I were you I'd go with corepwn's suggestion and enjoy it.

 

[oldbones]

Yes you can. I am hoping my heads are good. OTOH I am really torn as to what I want to do with the car. Aluminator short block with my heads and cams, 2015 short block with my heads and cams, or a 2011-2014 short block and put the car back stockish. If I went the later I would sell the car and Roush separately. The head unit will be repaired in about a week. The $1965 price is for a rotating assembly. Here's Tasca Ford's price. http://www.tascaparts.com/ford/must...engine-cat/engine-scat/?part_name=short-block

That new short block from Tasca is one heck of a deal!

 

[vortecd]

the '15 engines come a lot and maybe we should have a thread on what would be needed to put one in a 11-14 mustang. I do know they changed the angle on the oil filter and was told a '15 would work in a early car but not the other way around. Could you buy a '15 shortblock and transfer everything from your 11-14 over to it?

 

[burke985]

What are your goals for the car thats what you gotta ask your self, is it a full time drag car ? is it a daily driver ? etc etc. My opinion is if your gonna go through the trouble then you may as well future proof it for when you want more. If you want 1000+ hp you need to get rid of the TVS and go turbo.

 

[Gpcalero]

I blew my motor a few months ago. VMP TVS. Think I had a bad tank of gas or something.

Went with MPR and ditched the VMP to go turbo. But for the deal, the '16 Aluminator isn't a bad choice. I just didn't want the Mahle pistons and deal with the timing components.

 

[cjd223]

Now that is how to blow a motor!!! I am in talks with a friend/engine builder about rebuilding my engine. We shall see what the cost will be if I go that route. The '15-'16 short block is still an option.

 

[cjd223]

That new short block from Tasca is one heck of a deal!

Actually my quote from a local dealer is lower.

 

[cjd223]

What are your goals for the car thats what you gotta ask your self, is it a full time drag car ? is it a daily driver ? etc etc. My opinion is if your gonna go through the trouble then you may as well future proof it for when you want more. If you want 1000+ hp you need to get rid of the TVS and go turbo.

I would have gone CPR if they had been available when I bought my Roush. They source their turbo units from a manufacturer 10 miles from where I live.