• Welcome to SVTPerformance!

AZ only has E54 now, any other states like this?

Discussion in 'The Distillery' started by 2011 gtcs, Aug 29, 2016.

  1. 2011 gtcs

    2011 gtcs GT500 poster Established Member

    Messages:
    6,448
    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2011
    Location:
    Arizona
    So I filled my car up at my usual E85 station and I filled up a bottle to test when I got home. Well on my way home I did a pull and the car felt like shit and AFRs were 10.1 (usually 11.7 on E85)
    so when I tested it, this is what i got
    [​IMG]
    I would like to know if any other states are having this issue.
    I also found this
    [​IMG]


    sucks I have to go back to pump gas
     
  2. c6zhombre

    c6zhombre E85 NutSwinger Established Member

    Messages:
    5,015
    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2008
    Location:
    League City, TX
    Hmmmm....depressing.

    Hope that's just Arizona and not nation wide...filled up 3 weeks ago and it was solid 85%, all the pumps still had E85 stickers
     
  3. MG0h3

    MG0h3 Premium Member Premium Member Established Member Established Member

    Messages:
    6,495
    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2014
    Location:
    El Paso, TX
    that blows...I remember o4sleeper saying that the octane doesnt change until you are below xyz? % ethanol. Ill try and find it or hopefully hell chime in
     
  4. MG0h3

    MG0h3 Premium Member Premium Member Established Member Established Member

    Messages:
    6,495
    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2014
    Location:
    El Paso, TX
  5. 2011 gtcs

    2011 gtcs GT500 poster Established Member

    Messages:
    6,448
    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2011
    Location:
    Arizona
    I spoke to Lund already and he made me a E55 tune, still sucks.
     
  6. wmfateam

    wmfateam Member Established Member

    Messages:
    317
    Joined:
    May 18, 2013
    Location:
    Arizona
    Hmm, my boss buys this by the barrel downtown. I'll have to see if his pump is doing the same.

    Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk
     
  7. 04sleeper

    04sleeper Runs On "Liquid Gold" Staff Member Super Moderator

    Messages:
    12,337
    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2005
    Location:
    Dallas, TX
    Wow! That is low. But I would still run this over 93 all day all night long! Will just have to adjust the tune accordingly.
     
  8. T.Man

    T.Man Active Member Established Member

    Messages:
    654
    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2010
    Location:
    The Desert
    Sorry to hear it OP! I ran into the same issue. Two weeks ago, all was well. Fill up just last Friday and noticed my car was dumping fuel and getting KR.

    Lame...
     
  9. MG0h3

    MG0h3 Premium Member Premium Member Established Member Established Member

    Messages:
    6,495
    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2014
    Location:
    El Paso, TX
    I googled a bit and this may just be something they are allowed to do during winter. Wasnt real clear thought.
     
  10. H-TownMachI

    H-TownMachI It's the Hamburglar Established Member

    Messages:
    830
    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2003
    Location:
    Lala Land
    One of out stations has put these stickers on recently.

    20160809_152144_zpsdzxkftct.jpg
     
  11. c6zhombre

    c6zhombre E85 NutSwinger Established Member

    Messages:
    5,015
    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2008
    Location:
    League City, TX

    nooooooo.. :(

    what station is that?
     
  12. H-TownMachI

    H-TownMachI It's the Hamburglar Established Member

    Messages:
    830
    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2003
    Location:
    Lala Land
    Kroger in Pearland on 518 and Cullen. I tested it at 74% ethanol. It was tested later that week at by someone else at 90%. I think they put the sticker on so they wouldn't have to answer questions about ethanol content fluctuations.
     
  13. 2011 gtcs

    2011 gtcs GT500 poster Established Member

    Messages:
    6,448
    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2011
    Location:
    Arizona
    Yeah Lund said the same thing, and the car still feels strong on E54. I think he said he pulled 2 or 3 degrees of total timing out of my tune. But I have a E85 tune, E54 tune and pump gas tune. So I'm all set now.
     
  14. SID297

    SID297 OWNER/ADMIN Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    48,184
    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2003
    Location:
    Myrtle Beach, SC
    Might have to test my local station. Could be issues with EtOH production or the fact that a barrel of crude is running so low.
     
  15. 04sleeper

    04sleeper Runs On "Liquid Gold" Staff Member Super Moderator

    Messages:
    12,337
    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2005
    Location:
    Dallas, TX
    Tested 3 Krogers here in DFW last week. One was 85%, one was 82% and one was 75%.
     
  16. oldmodman

    oldmodman Well-Known Member Established Member

    Messages:
    16,544
    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2003
    Location:
    West Los Angeles
    Might now be worth the expense and effort to buy a 55 gallon drum of pure ethanol. Then fortify the pump E-whatever until you get to E-85.

    https://www.maperformance.com/products/55-gallon-drum-of-e98-ethanol-racing-fuel $339.00 for the barrel. i don't know what the shipping costs would be. And I bet you could get it much cheaper if you go to the actual manufacturer. This might make sense if a few people go in on a run and buy a few drums at the same time.

    Here is a short article on the wholesale ethanol pricing structure.
    http://zfacts.com/zfacts.com/p/438.html

    Here is the best deal I could find. But you better be a big user, club, or a bunch of friends. Gulf Racing Fuels has a $2000.00 minimum dealer cost pricing including free delivery. So as long as a group can come up with the money and a place to store it this might be the best possible deal. It's E-98 AND they will deliver it in EPA approved five gallon pails OR 55 gallon drums.
    http://gulfracingfuels.com/gulf-e98-pump-e85-doesnt-compare/
     
  17. Blown38

    Blown38 Active Member Established Member

    Messages:
    774
    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2009
    Location:
    Dumfries, VA
    I just got 60 gallons today in VA tested at about 87% was still settling. Didn't notice any funny stickers, but I wasn't looking either. $1.70
     
  18. c6zhombre

    c6zhombre E85 NutSwinger Established Member

    Messages:
    5,015
    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2008
    Location:
    League City, TX
    Good info.

    Just got back from testing Stripes store #1030 at 1111 League City Pkwy.....tested E86

    The pumps did have that "51-83" sticker which I've never seen on those pumps ever before...but tested great none the less. :rockon:
     
  19. DropSVT

    DropSVT Active Member Established Member

    Messages:
    325
    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2016
    Location:
    California
    This happens each year as far as im concerned. Its just a winter thing for them to lower it.

    Sent from my LGMS428 using Tapatalk
     
  20. weebz69

    weebz69 Member Established Member

    Messages:
    66
    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2007
    Location:
    Gilbert AZ
    That's a fricking bummer stupid az voted down weed now this, **** man sucks I gained 27 hp using e85 b4 I'm just intake and exhaust. I threw a GT350 Manifold on and getting it dyno tune today and I was like I got e85 in the trunk and he was like no its e54 now I'm like damn it I was hoping for some sexy gains well still be better than 91 I'm thinking but who knows.
     

Share This Page