94-95........5.0= 215bhp
96-97........4.6= 215bhp
98.............4.6= 225bhp
99+...........4.6= 260bhp
96-97........4.6= 215bhp
98.............4.6= 225bhp
99+...........4.6= 260bhp
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The 96-98 cars will never touch a 5.0 car. Dynos reveal about 173 HP on the 96-98 4.6 cars with a 5spd!!! The 94-94 5 liter cars make about 190-195 with a stick. Unless you have the 99 up heads then forget it. 
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The 96-98 cars will never touch a 5.0 car. Dynos reveal about 173 HP on the 96-98 4.6 cars with a 5spd!!! The 94-94 5 liter cars make about 190-195 with a stick. Unless you have the 99 up heads then forget it.
I don't know about that. I dyno'd 206rwhp with just exhaust before all the major work...
I have seen dyno runs personally where a 97 5spd GT put down 173 bone stock. I have read numerous articles in 5.0 & super Fords and MM&FF, and even Hosrepower TV's Black 96 vert 5spd put down numbers within 5 RWHP of that.
MY 89 GT bone stock (save for a K&N panel filter put down 194 RWHP (8 deg timing). Fiend of mines 95 5spd GT put 189 RWHP. I am talking from experience that these numbers are the norm. That RWHP you got was very impressive for a bone stock 96-98 GT.
MY 89 GT bone stock (save for a K&N panel filter put down 194 RWHP (8 deg timing). Fiend of mines 95 5spd GT put 189 RWHP. I am talking from experience that these numbers are the norm. That RWHP you got was very impressive for a bone stock 96-98 GT.
Definately go with the 5.0 motor, the 4.sux in the 96-98 is a total dog unless you have the head swap done. There is another guy on here that pulled a 14.1 many times over in the bone stock 94 5.0. The newer 4.6 99 and up are decent powered and with a full exhaust and suspension mods, they are running 12's on slicks all day long. There is only one pre 99 4.6 that has accomplished that through stock heads though. Most are hi 14 low 15 second cars.
Well Jay, I dunno if you're talking about me but with my 94 Mustang GEEE TEEE, I ran a best of 14.2 with pullies and a 5 speed...on reg. street tires. Oh and did I mention with a 112,000 miles on the stock motor?? Show me a 96-98 (2 valve)that does that? Ohh and just so you are all straight on it, in 94 Ford changed the way it rated horsepower on their cars, so the 93 Mustang which made 225HP is the same motor as the 94 motor which made 215hp. I can't ever remember being beat by any 2 valve car (99 and Ups included). Go with the 5.0. Larger and cheaper aftermarket. Computers are way less picky. Easier to work on under the hood. Free mods actually WORK on em. You don't need a minimum 4.10 gear to get them out of the hole. Do your homework on them and see for yourself. The only downside to a 94-95 5.0 is the occasional odd-ball parts that are specific to those cars (a $329 fuel rail being on of them...).
I like my OHC motor, my vote is for the modular not the 5.0, the parts are more expensive, but at the same time most 50's are beat on and in bad shape(not saying all of them are) but you will always have to replace something on them.
Thats with any high performance car. If you want something to flog on, parts WILL break. Its not a question of if but when. Comes with the territory...5.0 and 4.6. But if you shop around you can find that one that was owned by Mr. Mid-Life Crisis and just bought the car for the "image." Like my car was...
Hmmmm, so you're saying that all 96-98 2v's are putting down about 205 horses at the flywheel? 20 less than what Ford rated them at?? I've read the majority of 96-98 2v's are putting down around 195rwhp bone stock. There's no way I gained 30rwhp from exhaust. I think stock for stock the 2v and the 5.0 are nearly identical. There's no argument from me though that the 5.0 is "easier" to mod though.:beer:
I can agree they are close on HP but what about TQ? I can't quote exact numbers here to back up my arguement..sorry. But am I wrong in saying that a 5.0 definetly makes more TQ than a 4.6
94-95= 215hp 285tq
96-97= 205hp 265tq
98=225hp 275 tq
I'd say if you're not going to mod it heavily, get the 4.6 but be prepared to get beat by ANY stock fox-body.
Although, if you got the 5.0, with aluminum heads, exhaust, and gears you could be in the mid to low 13 second range. It's all up to you.
If you don't want to spend hundreds of dollars each time something breaks then get the 5.0 too. Other then replacing the tranny, it's never cost more then $100 to fix whatever the problem was. And that's not many problems. Plus you can fix it yourself easily.
I don't see many modulars running stong at 140,000 miles either.
96-97= 205hp 265tq
98=225hp 275 tq
I'd say if you're not going to mod it heavily, get the 4.6 but be prepared to get beat by ANY stock fox-body.
Although, if you got the 5.0, with aluminum heads, exhaust, and gears you could be in the mid to low 13 second range. It's all up to you.
If you don't want to spend hundreds of dollars each time something breaks then get the 5.0 too. Other then replacing the tranny, it's never cost more then $100 to fix whatever the problem was. And that's not many problems. Plus you can fix it yourself easily.
I don't see many modulars running stong at 140,000 miles either.
Eh? Where did these numbers come from??
The real ones are....
95 and older.......215hp.......285-300lbs
96-97.................215hp........285lbs
98......................225hp.........290lbs
Shit I put down over 260lbs at the wheels STOCK.
Who really cares about stock numbers anyway right? No one leaves their's stock anyway.
There's no question that 5.0's are cheaper and easier to mod. Absolutely no argument from me there. The 5.0 is and always will be an awesome power plant. :beer:
Long live the PUSH RODS!!!! But a PI head swapped 4.6 sohc can be a bad ass little engine. Just depends on how much you want to spend in the Speed = Money equation.
sounds like a chevy owner
:lol:true, but I looked for a fox for over a year and never fond one worth owning(that was priced resonable) I know they are out there, but I never found one for me, I did roll upon my 01 GT for a fair deal, 50's are cheap to an extent, but if you want cheap go buy a SBC
OLDSMOBLIE ALLS THE WAYS BROTHER!!!!:burnout:
I own a 03 GT and bone stock my car ran a 14.46,14.53 and a 14.28 in that order. Now there were 5.0s there with usual mods (headers,cold air kit and timing ajdusted) all 4 of 'em that were there DID NOT run quicker than 14.40s. My point if your askin by now lol is that stock for stock I'd take the 4.6 99-up. But if your gonna really mod 'em I would start with a 5.0. So much cheaper and easier to get nice Hp and TQ #s out of em. IMO oh and nice to meet ya'll!
see my previous post....14.2 at 98mph with just a $100 set of underdrive pullies on a stock 94 (not a light fox bod) GT (shitty E7E heads bla bla bla...not a Cobra) with 100+ thousand miles on the ticker and regular street tires. I will agree though, I have seen plenty of card carrying members of the "Gears, Flows, and Pulley" Crowd stuggle to break into the 14's. No argument there. Not trying to argue...just don't want any misconceptionns about the times these cars are capable of putting down bone stock. Oh and I have seen a 03 GT lay down 13.9's back to back with just a cold air intake, flows, and drag radials...and the kid is a horrible driver.
No they're not. I know someone with a 98GT w/ a PI swap. his other mods are 3.73's, bbk longtubes, offroad x pipe, 70mm t/b/ 24lbs injectors, 80mm mass air, and a couple other things. It's not fast at all. He took me for a ride in his car and gassed it a couple of times, I wanted to ask him if it was running right. But I just smiled and said, wow, that's pretty fast.
Black gee tee...where did you get your numbers? You're saying that all the 5.0 gt's before and including 95's are 215? How come I've seen bone stock fox-bodies dyno above 210 to the wheels? Speed density cars dyno well above that too.
4.6's dont put out shit for torque. it's a proven fact.
No they're not. I know someone with a 98GT w/ a PI swap. his other mods are 3.73's, bbk longtubes, offroad x pipe, 70mm t/b/ 24lbs injectors, 80mm mass air, and a couple other things. It's not fast at all. He took me for a ride in his car and gassed it a couple of times, I wanted to ask him if it was running right. But I just smiled and said, wow, that's pretty fast.
Black gee tee...where did you get your numbers? You're saying that all the 5.0 gt's before and including 95's are 215? How come I've seen bone stock fox-bodies dyno above 210 to the wheels? Speed density cars dyno well above that too.
4.6's dont put out shit for torqe. it's a proven fact.
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