I traded my 2016 3.5 eco for a 2022 3.5 eco, and happily, I love the performance, especially out West in the mountains.
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I traded my 2016 3.5 eco for a 2022 3.5 eco, and happily, I love the performance, especially out West in the mountains.
You'll notice one thing missing from that video that was prominently displayed in all things TRX related...the engine soundtrack.
I totally get the turbo I6 has many advantages that outweigh engine sound. But it kind of reminds me of super foods that taste bad...I eat them because my mind can rationalize the overall benefits, even if the experience isn't 100% perfect.
I totally get the turbo I6 has many advantages that outweigh engine sound. But it kind of reminds me of super foods that taste bad...I eat them because my mind can rationalize the overall benefits, even if the experience isn't 100% perfect.
The only appealing thing about the RHO is the base price.
Same suspension, less power.
The TRX to me handled jumps like a Gen 1 Raptor. Nose heavy and the rear liked to buck out. 150lbs less engine weight should help with the nose diving a bit, but sort of bummed they virtually kept the same suspension.
Same suspension, less power.
The TRX to me handled jumps like a Gen 1 Raptor. Nose heavy and the rear liked to buck out. 150lbs less engine weight should help with the nose diving a bit, but sort of bummed they virtually kept the same suspension.
I will agree that it could be strong competition for the current regular Raptor just based on price and consumers typical use of trucks like this.
Based on the exhaust on my M4, people buying the RAM are going to have a lot easier time getting a good sounding exhaust. Every V6 aftermarket exhaust I have heard for my 3.5 eco sounds awful.
Best commercial ever.
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dodge Challenger is better
I was slowly warming up to a RHO till I snagged a 37PP Raptor for under 70k.
Ford is going to release a tuning package for the Gen 3 Raptor, wonder if it gets released right when the RHO's hit the lots lol.
Ford is going to release a tuning package for the Gen 3 Raptor, wonder if it gets released right when the RHO's hit the lots lol.
I just got Enterprise on at our shop as I have a long history with them at this point and the first few vehicles they dropped off were a 2025 Ram 1500 Leramie, 2025 1500 Rebel, and a 2024 Grand Wagoneer. All three are equipped with the Hurricane and each are very impressive and very nice inside. I've gotten to drive the Hurricane a bit to see what it's like it's nice.
It could be chalked up to Ram's Ecoboost as smoothness and power feel nearly identical. I did notice on the Rebel that at low speed parking maneuvering today that there was a constant surging through the transmission that was annoying, but transmission quirks are an FCA feature. Doesn't matter how many miles they have, the transmission feel terrible.
The Grand Wagoneer is insane to say the least. It's fully loaded and has buttons, switches, and screens everywhere. These things are massive too. First impression is that it makes a Suburban feel small. It's seriously in the Excursion range of size. It's very comfy and luxurious, and the seat massagers are excellent, but it doesn't quite have the classy styling of the Navigator. It's definitely up there though.
I wouldn't be too upset about losing the 5.7 Hemi for the Hurricane though. Different story if you're comparing the 6.4 or 6.7, but the online 6 feels good and is very powerful and makes these heavy trucks feel very quick.
It could be chalked up to Ram's Ecoboost as smoothness and power feel nearly identical. I did notice on the Rebel that at low speed parking maneuvering today that there was a constant surging through the transmission that was annoying, but transmission quirks are an FCA feature. Doesn't matter how many miles they have, the transmission feel terrible.
The Grand Wagoneer is insane to say the least. It's fully loaded and has buttons, switches, and screens everywhere. These things are massive too. First impression is that it makes a Suburban feel small. It's seriously in the Excursion range of size. It's very comfy and luxurious, and the seat massagers are excellent, but it doesn't quite have the classy styling of the Navigator. It's definitely up there though.
I wouldn't be too upset about losing the 5.7 Hemi for the Hurricane though. Different story if you're comparing the 6.4 or 6.7, but the online 6 feels good and is very powerful and makes these heavy trucks feel very quick.
Aren't Grand Wagoneers notorious for faulty electronics, and electrical issues in general?
Probably. There's a screen in the passenger side dash, at the bottom of the center stack for the seat controls, the main center screen, gage cluster screen, and a screen in the rear center console, and there may be more I just haven't noticed. Around all of those screens are dozens of buttons. I'd be very concerned about longevity in that vehicle. But overall it does feel like a very nice vehicle.
Gotcha, was just curious because that's all I'd ever heard about them. They look like nice rides and I like the exterior.
How many miles where on it?
FCA vehicles are highly problematic in just about everything. My experience has always been mechanical failures but on older Dodge/Chryslers that had GEM Modules it was guaranteed to fail at some point and that causes issues with everything electrical.
Ford isn't known for quality excellence either. In fact, they have led the pack for multiple years in recall/warranty costs by billions with a B.
Unless we see the actual data (which the OEM's will never ever share publicly) on defect/failure rates it's all just conjecture. Everyone knows someone who has had problems with <insert brand/model here>.
Shoulda bought a Toyota
It's true that they all have their issues, but if you were to go to shops and ask them about FCA vehicles I bet you would quickly get a concensus. The issues they have are typically more catastrophic on a regular basis than Ford and GM. They all have issues with their vehicles that can wipe out a motor or cost a fortune to repair, and each has a motor that is more problematic than others, but I've never seen so many of the same issues across multiple engine lines than FCA, and they are issues that come down to poor design or manufacturing. If you've never worked in a shop it may seem anecdotal, but after enough time seeing it in multiple shops and when every tech and shop owner you know all have the same nightmare experiences then it's not anecdotal anymore.
Matter of fact, I've got a dead Pacifica Hybrid as we speak. We repaired the right qtr and rear door, and now the car is dead because of the hybrid battery which had a charge on the battery when it came in and shows 430 miles of range on the engine, but now it's dead apparently to low voltage codes that I can't clear because FCA requires a monthly subscription to be able to clear codes. Tech followed the procedures for disconnecting and reconnecting the batteries and we've done it multiple times before without issue. It won't take a charge from the plug-in either because it states it needs to be serviced now. You'd think it would allow the gas motor to kick on stil but it won't.
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I am not dismissing what you or anyone else may have experienced, but when you are talking the kinds of numbers that vehicles typically sell in and the thousands of parts in each of them, you really need statistical data to make any sort of verifiable determination.
Unfortunately, people (especially internet forums lol) are HIGHLY unreliable sources of information when it comes to these types of things. It's confirmation bias, which is human nature.
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