Yes, a car that came out in 2015 cannot beat a car that was designed (2008) and nearly perfected (z28).
Sounds familiar... Nismo GTR vs C7z anyone?
2015 Mustang GT PP vs Camaro SS 1LE
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Sounds familiar... Nismo GTR vs C7z anyone?
1. supercharger > no supercharger
2. more displacement, more power
3. will hold its value better
and yes, I am biased
You're right. When I looked, I didn't expand the search radius and all 2011+ were at least $45k. I've found a quite a few under $40k in a 300 mile radius so I may pursue this route.
Thanks guys.
When a die hard bmw racer is impressed with the new times the mustang GT is putting up on runflats I take note. ask those that have decent seat time in both.
If your looking at used, the best dollar for performance is the used c6 z06 which can be found in the 30's.
If your looking at used, the best dollar for performance is the used c6 z06 which can be found in the 30's.
I feel like the 15gt is the best, who gives a crap what tires they come with, means nothing. New tires and stiffer shocks 15gt>1le.. plus the mustang is much nicer overall.
Id probably go with an 11-12 gt500 over either of them though
Id probably go with an 11-12 gt500 over either of them though
Some of you guys are blowing my mind!
So you would rather have a mass produced car that runs 13.0 second quarter miles, is slower on track (than 11'-12' SVTPP I believe) and has a less capable power plant, than a 12.0 second quarter mile capable, limited production, forged/supercharged power plant car!?! What world am I living in!?!
I drove both. I went with the GT because it was significantly cheaper and offered more features. Using my butt dyno, both cars felt the same to me.
Tires have everything to do with performance. The cars are only as good as their weakest link, and you need to look at the whole picture to compare two vehicles. Even if you plan on changing to a different tire later on, you could be hurting or helping the performance of your car. In the case of the 1LE, you would likely be hurting the performance. Changing tires on the '15 GT would likely help a great deal. This all depends on what tire you start with and what tire you go to obviously.
Why do you say that?
The argument seems to be the better platform of the s550, whether it be the handling, refinment ect. Is enough to offset the brute power of the gt500s and their ability to be a cheap intake/pully/tune away from another good chunk of power
Being my car as it sits should trap about 4-5mph faster than an s550 and I feel it's kinda slow then the Refinement and handling of the s550 isn't going to outweigh my want for just speed.
Main not taking it to a road course and I don't want to spend 8k making the s550 FI
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It isn't that hard to believe. Put a blower on a base '15 GTPP and every advantage about your GT500 except the exclusivity is gone. And for similar money.
And some people prefer the new body style. I know, opinions are weird.
The odd thing is on this forum people feel their opinions are fact. So if you disagree than you're flat out wrong in their eyes.
I would guess to match the 1LE you are looking at tires, shocks, springs and sway bars. I have NO clue what the cost of all that would be for aftermarket on the new S550.
Not everyone cares about a 1 sec difference in 1/4 mile times. Not everyone cares about drag racing period. Not everyone cares about paying more for "the name" and exclusivity of a car. All i see when people mention "limited production" is they will jack up the price.
Don't forget that slapping on all that stuff doesn't guarantee you anything without proper setup. The big advantage with an OEM performance model, is it has many thousands of hours spent on design/setup/sorting out. Most folks that go the aftermarket route, rarely do any significant amount of that. If you do actually get it setup well, you've usually given up something in return.
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mmm i'm going to disagree, to an extent. When i developed my suspension on track, it had one purpose: Go fast.
When an OEM develops a suspension however, they have several: Wear and tear, comfort, price, availability... and "going fast" may be somewhere lower down the list. Now, on a model like the 1LE i would imagine "going fast" is going to be somewhere higher on the list than a base GT, maybe even the PP GT since it seems to still be a tad on the soft side, but i can promise its not the number 1 item.
The nice thing is that you're luckily not having to re-invent the wheel each time, suspension tuning is pretty basic, its the little nuances that make the difference though, and in that case the thousands of hours with a platform would help a bit.
Well, I assumed that. 80% of people will bolt on "lowering springs" for the look. It's the 20% remaining that will actually do research and piece together parts that work well with each other. The 20% are ones that DON'T show their cars or have it a trailer queen. IMO a lot more attention to suspension was put into the 1LE than the GT. This will come down to the OP's goal for the car and personal preference of looks/comfort.
How good are the g2 runflats on the 1le? From what I've heard that going to a good non run flat tire will take a second plus off of the Mustangs time on a short 2min type road course. I personally would just change tires and out drive the other car.
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