They didn't run Eibach dampers, they ran MCS RR2s IIRC. I believe they ended up with an 800lb spring. Read my post, said haven't heard of anyone running a 700 with the Eibachs.
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2013 5.0 Build Thread - VORTECH/FORGESTAR/APR Widebody/KW V3 Coilovers and much more
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They didn't run Eibach dampers, they ran MCS RR2s IIRC. I believe they ended up with an 800lb spring. Read my post, said haven't heard of anyone running a 700 with the Eibachs.
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So to clear the air, I went over more information about the coilover kit and I'd like to post up a few things in regards to it. Below I've copied some comments from one of the guys at Eibach who helped me out with this particular kit to give you guys more information. Sure, there's still going to be some doubters out there, I know that and I expect that, but ultimately if you guys want to comment, "That set up wont work," or "Those shocks can't handle that spring rate," I will be testing this once it's on the car and I'll give my unbiased opinion comparing it to my previous two coilover sets that I've had on this chassis. Firstly though, from the research I've seen there are a LOT of guys running similar spring rates on the track without issues with the valving or the shock being able to handle it. Here's what I wanted to post up, straight from Eibach:
There's more to be posted, but I think at the end of the day what matter's most is someone's opinion on a Mustang. I'll report back after the weekend once it's installed
There's more to be posted, but I think at the end of the day what matter's most is someone's opinion on a Mustang. I'll report back after the weekend once it's installed
Not trying to disagree with you at all, just keep in mind that the car that is being made an example of has a motion ratio up front of ~.7, while our cars are over .9, so a 600lb spring up front is only ~420 at the wheel, while most of the 700lb rate for us ends up at the wheel, so there is much more to dampen. Plus much more sprung and unsprung weight.
Still man, I really do hope they work well for you. I run "way too much spring" on Koni Yellows (550/300) myself. At the worst it seems from what they say (eibach) they could possibly use a revalve.
Still man, I really do hope they work well for you. I run "way too much spring" on Koni Yellows (550/300) myself. At the worst it seems from what they say (eibach) they could possibly use a revalve.
Had a moment to take some nicer photos
Should have more photos soon, I've been delayed on getting it all uploaded but I just haven't had the time.
With that said, I've had some time now to at least play with the rebound/compression settings on the car, and so far I'm very impressed with the system's ability to make a substantial difference in tuning. Compression and Rebound settings both so far have made pretty substantial differences in overall feel. Despite the spring rate which most would say sounds very high, if the compression setting is all the way open (aka at 0), and same with the rebound, the whole car feels like a Cadillac, it's impressive how insanely comfortable it is. After playing around a bit I found the sweat spot with just a couple clicks of compression and a few more of rebound to match, and she seriously feels like it's on rails. In the not to distant future I plan on going on a few track days once I get the cooling set up as well as the wheel/tire situation which hopefully shouldn't be substantially too much longer. I'll make sure to post up some videos, but hopefully I'll get some more photos of the car shortly.
With that said, I've had some time now to at least play with the rebound/compression settings on the car, and so far I'm very impressed with the system's ability to make a substantial difference in tuning. Compression and Rebound settings both so far have made pretty substantial differences in overall feel. Despite the spring rate which most would say sounds very high, if the compression setting is all the way open (aka at 0), and same with the rebound, the whole car feels like a Cadillac, it's impressive how insanely comfortable it is. After playing around a bit I found the sweat spot with just a couple clicks of compression and a few more of rebound to match, and she seriously feels like it's on rails. In the not to distant future I plan on going on a few track days once I get the cooling set up as well as the wheel/tire situation which hopefully shouldn't be substantially too much longer. I'll make sure to post up some videos, but hopefully I'll get some more photos of the car shortly.
I've finally had more time to take some more photos and actually be able to give a proper review on the suspension as well. Despite having a significantly high spring rate, higher than most would normally consider, the suspension is insanely comfortable with the compression settings set at the lowest. I've had suspension before, unfortunately too many coilers that I've spent a lot of money on before that have claimed to have decent adjustments but none of them have actually been able to hold a light to this. The rebound/compression settings ACTUALLY make a difference, you feel it, it isn't a placebo effect, it's actual adjustment.
The spring rates that I have selected are 700lbs/in front and 300lbs/in rear which to some sound like they are way too high but for daily driven use, I would NOT have a problem with this at all. Even at the full soft setting the performance is substantially higher than previous suspension too, but once dialed in, this thing can really move through the corners.
I took some more photos with the external reservoirs as well as the adjustment knobs you'll see up front too. The bracket that you see comes with the kit, and the rear brackets are also included so that adjustment can be done just near the rear LCA's.
Compression adjustment on top of the camber plates which are included. I was able to dial the camber to about -2.0, I'll probably adjust them closer to -2.5-2.7 once I have my track wheels and tires taken care of.
Easy rebound adjustments that you can access here on the reservoir. One thing that makes me happy about this kit too is that the clicks on the adjustments, compression or rebound, actually have a significant click so that there isn't a guessing game to try to have each side match the other. I've had other kits in the past where the clicks are somewhat vague and you're unsure if it was actually a click of rebound or not. Luckily no issues here.
Since I was doing all this I figured since I didn't have any completion pictures of the roll bar set up, seat and new steering wheel, that I'd include them here:
Final few things to put together then it's time for more track time. I have a few things in the works, but we're looking at track wheels, slicks and cooling (radiator/oil cooler etc). After that we'll get some track time on this car finally and everything that comes after that will just be to improve the way this thing handles
The spring rates that I have selected are 700lbs/in front and 300lbs/in rear which to some sound like they are way too high but for daily driven use, I would NOT have a problem with this at all. Even at the full soft setting the performance is substantially higher than previous suspension too, but once dialed in, this thing can really move through the corners.
I took some more photos with the external reservoirs as well as the adjustment knobs you'll see up front too. The bracket that you see comes with the kit, and the rear brackets are also included so that adjustment can be done just near the rear LCA's.
Compression adjustment on top of the camber plates which are included. I was able to dial the camber to about -2.0, I'll probably adjust them closer to -2.5-2.7 once I have my track wheels and tires taken care of.
Easy rebound adjustments that you can access here on the reservoir. One thing that makes me happy about this kit too is that the clicks on the adjustments, compression or rebound, actually have a significant click so that there isn't a guessing game to try to have each side match the other. I've had other kits in the past where the clicks are somewhat vague and you're unsure if it was actually a click of rebound or not. Luckily no issues here.
Since I was doing all this I figured since I didn't have any completion pictures of the roll bar set up, seat and new steering wheel, that I'd include them here:
Final few things to put together then it's time for more track time. I have a few things in the works, but we're looking at track wheels, slicks and cooling (radiator/oil cooler etc). After that we'll get some track time on this car finally and everything that comes after that will just be to improve the way this thing handles
My Eibach Pro R1's only lasted me about 12,000 miles before they started leaking. The issue I had with them is that as you lower the vehicle, it compresses the stroke length. So any bumps, dips or uneven surfaces would cause the head of the shock to bang against the shock body and prematurely wear out the seals. You'll probably be alright since the car is not DD'd and going full racecar so ride height is setup for function.
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Something I'll keep an eye out for. I think given the substantial spring rate and as you mention the fact that I won the hitting any dips and bumps and such on a street, I likely won't see that issue. Thanks for mentioning it though, I'll keep an eye out.
Thank goodness Eibach has a damn good warranty though.
Roll bar
Who makes that roll bar? i like the setup integrating the rear seat brace.
Who makes that roll bar? i like the setup integrating the rear seat brace.
It's custom. If you're in Southern California, where he's located too, I could PM you his info if you'd like. I wanted something unique that you couldn't just buy from a website (aka like from Autopower or from MM).
It's been a long while since I've been on here, but hopefully we've got some new stuff in the works to get this car ready for the spring track season
Thank you! Once my garage remodel is finally finished I can actually get to work on putting some more parts on and testing everything out on the track
I like everything about it except the color. A gray car is a gray car by any other name. I owned a gray car once, spent the better part of a day washing and waxing it. When I was done It didn't look much better than when I started. Just a very boring color IMO. Other than that, nice job.
Not sure what colors to pick. What would you guys do? Here's the style:
Throwing around the idea of all black like this:
Or maybe something more unique like this:
Or something like this maybe (lol see where my problem is with trying to pick?)
Throwing around the idea of all black like this:
Or maybe something more unique like this:
Or something like this maybe (lol see where my problem is with trying to pick?)
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Hmmmm...
I think the bronze looks good, maybe add in a couple other bronze accents like the 5.0 badge or the calipers to help it pop more.
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