Kid attacked by dogs after trespassing in neighbors yard

Steve@TF said:

talk to any cop and they'll tell you that if someone enters your home you shoot them dead. then there will be only one side of the story. and pretty much no jury is going to convict the homeowner if they were to actually be prosecuted. of course there may be some 1 in a million circumstances like it was broad day light and the intruder was a five year old but 99.9% of the time it will be a teenager or adult. and even if you did not kill the intruder. he's going to tell the cops, i didnt make a move towards him. i was just minding my own business. lol. you think anyone is going to listen to/believe the guy who just committed felony breaking and entering?
shooting them in the back is a different story. but most gun owning homeowners know that. those that dont, well, ignorance of the law is not a valid defense...

if my dog went onto my neighbors dog and got a 9 iron upside his head i would be damn pissed. at my dog. and my neighbor. and myself. but i would not demand that my neighbor be locked up or have his 9 iron taken away or anything like that. its MY responsibility to keep MY dogs on my property. once all three ran out the front gate and after a dog someone was walking. i had to run after them and grab them and drag them back to my yard and quickly close the gate. then i proceeded to teach them not to do that again. they havent. though i am careful when i open my automatic gate. to make sure people arent walking by (mostly dogs).

i think the problem is people these days dont know their neighbors. my street is not ideal for this since people have big properties that are fenced in but i know both of my side neighbors very well, and they know my dogs.
one neighbors dog gets out all the time. once he somehow got onto my driveway (totally fenced in property) and was just sniffing around. luckily my dogs were out back. i quickly grabbed that dog and dragged him back over next door before my big dog would tear him apart. im good with my neighbors. this same neighbor, his son would accidentally hit his soccer ball over every now and then and id toss it back over. once, while he (father) was out there i told him, just an fyi i have no problem with the ball coming over but if it comes over and i dont know about it and the dogs get a hold of it they will tear it pieces. they've eaten a few of my sons toys (just yesterday in fact lol) the ball really doesnt come over any more. im sure he told his son he may lose a ball if he's not more careful. and to not even think about scaling our fence to retrieve it.

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DHG1078 said:

You can't shoot them in the back though.

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Steve@TF said:

thats why my property is 100% fenced in with two large dogs patrolling it at all times. if someone is crazy enough (meth head?) to scale my fence for some reason theyre going to have to get past my guards. i have to lol at all these celebrities that keep having their homes broken into and $100k worth of jewelry stolen. really? i guarantee you that if they had a few $5k police trained dogs those burglars would probably skip your house. or kill your dogs. but thats highly unlikely.

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Steve@TF said:

i dont know how long ago that was but man im tired of people taking their damn dogs in public places. not just little toy dogs in a purse but medium and large dogs. i was at home depot grabbing some stuff and two people with their dogs on leashes crossed paths and the dogs both went apeshit on each other right in the middle of store. one of the owners, an older lady, struggling to hold her dog back. wtf people. leave the damn dogs at home! maybe its just LA but im seeing this everywhere i go. in all kinds of stores. even in a grocery store. damn medium sized dog sitting in a shopping cart. wtf? i went to Offspring/Sublime concert and an outdoor venue and we're sitting there in our seats, waiting for the first show to start. people still coming in. all of a sudden a dog runs up to me and says hello. he then runs off and runs around through a few rows and back to his owner. emotional support dog i guess?? never seen that before. ive known a few people in my life who have an irrational, deathly fear of dogs. they shouldnt have to encounter dogs in places where dogs are not supposed to be. (seeing eye dogs excluded which are always calm and at their owners side, on a leash).

and dont get me wrong. i love dogs. owned them my whole life. have 3 now. i used to take my pug to various places but within reason. im just waiting to see one in a restaurant or a movie theater. a small business im sure would say get that ****ing dog out of here but these big stores just let people do whatever they want.

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Steve@TF said:

i cant believe they let this guy have his dog sit on his lap during a plane flight, with another passenger sitting right next to him. w. t. f. bit the poor guy sitting next to him in the face, several times. after that incident, the dog was put in a crate on the plane.

http://airport.blog.ajc.com/2017/06/05/emotional-support-dog-bites-passenger-on-delta-flight/

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DHG1078 said:

Do you have beware of dogs signs posted?

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ZYBORG said:

Pics of said Cane Corso...

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03Sssnake said:

+1! I gotta see this Roman War dog, they are such a noble breed!

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GT Premi said:

You feel that way about your dog, but can't understand why someone would feel that way about their human child? What if your dog went into the neighbor's yard, and the neighbor teed off upside its head with a 9 iron? Your dog was trespassing, right?

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GT Premi said:

Hmm... I might need to put that in my wallet for safe keeping until you participate in the next unarmed shooting thread.

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Steve@TF said:

i dont know how long ago that was but man im tired of people taking their damn dogs in public places. not just little toy dogs in a purse but medium and large dogs. i was at home depot grabbing some stuff and two people with their dogs on leashes crossed paths and the dogs both went apeshit on each other right in the middle of store. one of the owners, an older lady, struggling to hold her dog back. wtf people. leave the damn dogs at home! maybe its just LA but im seeing this everywhere i go. in all kinds of stores. even in a grocery store. damn medium sized dog sitting in a shopping cart. wtf? i went to Offspring/Sublime concert and an outdoor venue and we're sitting there in our seats, waiting for the first show to start. people still coming in. all of a sudden a dog runs up to me and says hello. he then runs off and runs around through a few rows and back to his owner. emotional support dog i guess?? never seen that before. ive known a few people in my life who have an irrational, deathly fear of dogs. they shouldnt have to encounter dogs in places where dogs are not supposed to be. (seeing eye dogs excluded which are always calm and at their owners side, on a leash).

and dont get me wrong. i love dogs. owned them my whole life. have 3 now. i used to take my pug to various places but within reason. im just waiting to see one in a restaurant or a movie theater. a small business im sure would say get that ****ing dog out of here but these big stores just let people do whatever they want.

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DHG1078 said:

You can't shoot them in the back though. Its hard to argue you were in danger, especially in CA, when the perp wasn't even looking at you. CA doesn't give two shits about property protection though and your very likely to get a jury of people who hate you for owning a gun.

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GT Premi said:

I grew up around overly aggressive dogs that used to terrorize the neighborhood. Shitty neighbors who wouldn't keep their beasts under control, yet a retarded boy (yes, literally retarded) antagonized our dog, got bit, and my parents put our dog down. He knew damned well NOT to be antagonizing dogs because, for one, he couldn't run for shit, and, two, he really did know better. Our dog was about the only one that wasn't aggressive toward people. Anyway...

Speaking of antagonizing, my uncle had a German Shepherd that he kept chained in the backyard. I put a sack over my head and was trying to spook it one day. My grandma called me back inside from messing with it. As I was going up the steps, the dog got loose and got me by my right calf. Luckily, some adults were there to pull it off. I was 4 or 5 at the time.

I said all that to say this. I grew up around scary dogs, and was attacked by one, but I've never had an innate fear of dogs. In fact, I want to have a couple German Shepherds now. Just waiting for our existing dogs to kick the bucket.



Didn't they end up finding out the dog was actually nice?



They permit it to protect yourself and/or the occupants from bodily harm, NOT from just an invasion. You shoot somebody and they haven't even made any advances toward you, you just caught yourself a murder charge. There are only a handful of states like Florida that have snowflake laws that allow you to kill someone just because they yelled BOO! from across the street.



You feel that way about your dog, but can't understand why someone would feel that way about their human child? What if your dog went into the neighbor's yard, and the neighbor teed off upside its head with a 9 iron? Your dog was trespassing, right?



Hmm... I might need to put that in my wallet for safe keeping until you participate in the next unarmed shooting thread.



I seriously despise people like that. When I come across people that talk about their pets like they're on equal footing with children, I just politely walk away.

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GT Premi said:

They permit it to protect yourself and/or the occupants from bodily harm, NOT from just an invasion.

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GT Premi said:

You shoot somebody and they haven't even made any advances toward you, you just caught yourself a murder charge.

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GT Premi said:

There are only a handful of states like Florida that have snowflake laws that allow you to kill someone just because they yelled BOO! from across the street.read.

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Coiled03 said:

Didn't read the story, but from the headline my reaction is, "I dunno...maybe don't trespass?"

Also, wtf is an emotional support dog?

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DHG1078 said:

You can't shoot them in the back though. Its hard to argue you were in danger, especially in CA, when the perp wasn't even looking at you. CA doesn't give two shits about property protection though and your very likely to get a jury of people who hate you for owning a gun.

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RDJ said:

this is flat out bullshit and wrong. you have a habit of opening your mouth and spouting shit when you are clueless.

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