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steg/stage 5 complaint
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WOW! This thread went from "okay" to "train wreck" in a split second!
it sucks that the OP had such a long drawn out issue with the ported blower. Makes me even more happy that I just went directly from a pullied non ported eaton to the whipple!
As for those upset that threads such as this get deleted............This thread started out in a much much better manner than one recently posted and the thread that I am talking about lived a nice life on here before being moved to SD where all hell broke lose and the OP finally came to their senses. Funny thing is threads like this always seem to have their way of coming back to bite the OP in the butt so why keep trying.
it sucks that the OP had such a long drawn out issue with the ported blower. Makes me even more happy that I just went directly from a pullied non ported eaton to the whipple!
As for those upset that threads such as this get deleted............This thread started out in a much much better manner than one recently posted and the thread that I am talking about lived a nice life on here before being moved to SD where all hell broke lose and the OP finally came to their senses. Funny thing is threads like this always seem to have their way of coming back to bite the OP in the butt so why keep trying.
With all due respect, I'm not really worried if Stieg swore like a sailor on the phone. If he was an ass or if he was very respectful doesn't do anything to fix my fear about the blower plate issue. I myself like many others are VERY worried now about the plate issue & would like some peace of mind over that not the phone call.
I show my car a lot & the reason I ported the blower was to keep the stock look to the engine while getting some extra punch. I was going to have a 4lb lower pulley kit installed in a few weeks. Now I may just put that money aside for next year & save for a whipple. I don't have the money to do that this year. I really dont want a whipple but as this thread goes on my fear level grows.
I show my car a lot & the reason I ported the blower was to keep the stock look to the engine while getting some extra punch. I was going to have a 4lb lower pulley kit installed in a few weeks. Now I may just put that money aside for next year & save for a whipple. I don't have the money to do that this year. I really dont want a whipple but as this thread goes on my fear level grows.
If I've learned anything on forums it's that sometimes claims are made from members (and sometimes vendors) that lack the proof to back them up. I hate when it happens because in the end both parties get hurt in different ways. Sometimes straying from the simple facts ends up clouding the original issue to where it is pushed to the side. Heck, nobody is perfect. We all make mistakes. We all fail at times. But one thing that we can all do is try to remember that what we say or what we do has consequences. Sometimes good. Sometimes bad. So we need to choose our words and our actions carefully, be sure we have the facts right, and communicate clearly and respectfully. And if we make a mistake, to then humble ourselves and apologize. I've had to do that myself many times, both outside of this forum and within this forum (as a member and as a vendor). And likely will have to do so again in the future. After all, I'm not perfect. I sometimes make mistakes. And I sometimes fail.
I really hope we all (members and vendors) learned something positive from this thread and will be more considerate and respectful towards each other. If we have concerns about a product we should personally/privately contact the vendor and discuss those concerns calmly and respectfully. And as vendors that we listen and respond calmly and respectfully. But if anyone then has to air a grievance publicly after having tried to work it out with the other party, that it is done with respect and with clear facts. Hopefully after all is said and done friendships are gained and maintained, and not harmed or destroyed.
I really love this forum! And I sincerely mean that. ;-)
I really hope we all (members and vendors) learned something positive from this thread and will be more considerate and respectful towards each other. If we have concerns about a product we should personally/privately contact the vendor and discuss those concerns calmly and respectfully. And as vendors that we listen and respond calmly and respectfully. But if anyone then has to air a grievance publicly after having tried to work it out with the other party, that it is done with respect and with clear facts. Hopefully after all is said and done friendships are gained and maintained, and not harmed or destroyed.
I really love this forum! And I sincerely mean that. ;-)
OP Fail.
Are you kidding me supercarkiller???? We go through all this crap for 2 days feeling sympathy for you becasue of the raw deal that you supposedly got from Steigemeieir Porting and now it looks like you did indeed just simply have an agenda to discredit all along.
Was there poor workmanship involved? Yep.
Was the response to correct the issue a little slow? Maybe so.....but maybe no?
Was there improper verbal treatment of the OP? Not sure, but all signs now point to NO.
And why the attack on the Administration of this site??? They let the whole thing play out: good, bad, off topic, whatever, until the very end.
Was there poor workmanship involved? Yep.
Was the response to correct the issue a little slow? Maybe so.....but maybe no?
Was there improper verbal treatment of the OP? Not sure, but all signs now point to NO.
And why the attack on the Administration of this site??? They let the whole thing play out: good, bad, off topic, whatever, until the very end.
I am on knowbodys side here but it seems to me since there are multiple problems with the Stage 5 plate, they should have made an announcement or informed their customers and taken care of the problem before something serious happens to someones engine. I mean that makes the most sense to me.
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It looks to me like there is way more to this than what we see here. But the only way we will ever know is if the OP gets unbanned, because he will either prove whether the tape does exist and was verbally abused by Stieg or he was just bluffing or maybe even exagerating.
Im leaning towards OP is saying the truth. You just have to look at everyones demeanor through the entire thread and you can see the truth.
^+1 million %!!!
If nothing else, this thread should have pointed out to everyone here that Steig for sure knows that these plates are a big problem! Why not add a sticky to the main page, like he does with all of his other ads?:??: The engines are way too freakin expensive to mess around with the risk of rogue pieces of aluminum floating around in the intake system!:bash: I mean, at he very least, we are talking about the potential to trash a very expensive intercooler, even if the aluminum in question doesn't get into the plenum! I am very worried about this, as I'm sure many others on here are! I really don't have the time to rip my car apart again either!:cuss: At this point, I think that at the very least, not only should Steig make a public announcement regarding the potential weld failures, but they should also do the following to save face for their company's credibility:
1) offer to repair said defect.
2) pay for all shipping costs incurred by issuing a "call tag" to pick up the defective units.
3) issue a "store credit" toward other upgrades to compensate for the labor costs, or effort involved with having to re-remove/install the defective unit, and down time for the car while the r+r is taking place.
I feel that these steps that I have outlined are not only very reasonable, but would go a LONG way in restoring the faith of the buying public in the services offered by Steig. When I first joined this forum a few years back, Steig was THE go to guy with the best reputation out there for "bang for the buck", quick turnaround, excellent after the sale service, etc., etc., but that seems to be going downhill almost daily! Bob, if you are reading/following this thread, please consider what I am asking here!:beer:
But obviously he and another member with no so favorable reviews of Steig have been banned since this thread started.:dw:What happened, did they say something nasty in a PM? If I were the OP, I'd be a little pissed too.
There are good vendors/shops out there that do great work and a lot more crappy ones. And unfortunately even the good guys have problems. This seems to be the case here as the work was sub-par to say the least. Regardless if that blower work was done a year and a half ago, Steig knew he had a problem and should have stepped up to the plate and said "Ya, we've had problems with that early design, I'll take care of it". End of story.
Great post Bob. :beer:
He can send it to me any time. I posted my email addy in an earlier post and I'll post it again. Being banned doesn't stop him from proving he wasn't lying.
And I think you're correct. There is a LOT more going on here than meets the eye.
[email protected].
Their bans had absolutely nothing to do with how they felt about Stieg.
Over half the people in this thread would be banned if that were the case.
I guess it would be nice to know just how many people have had the stage 5+ port done from Stieg. Then if we could get people who have had broken welds post so we could get a better idea of failure numbers. I dont want to read the "i know of a guy" who had a failure. I want facts from guys who had a problem. I want numbers of ports vs failures. I have no problem with Bob, I just want my car/engine safe. It would also be nice to see if anyone else has any pics of broken welds on the longer new style welds or was that one just a fluke.
wish i had my phone conversation, you would hear all kinds of naughty words
Not sticking up for Bob (or doubting what you say), but honestly, if Bob is a hothead like most guys I know, he would probably have used some choice words in rebuttal to someone complaining about his work, especially if they were yelling, swearing, etc. Is it professional - no, is it the way the complaint should be handled - no, but Bob is just a car guy like the rest of us when it comes right down to it, so he is susceptible to being pushed over the edge. To me the claims of swearing at customers means absolutely nothing, and just sidetracks the main issue. What is important is what Bob does to make the situation right! All this "he said" crap is nothing more than schoolyard bullshit!:rollseyes It would, however, be nice if Steig would take the time to do a serious reply here, and not keep copying/pasting the same crap advertisement over, and over!
Amen brotha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so your saying if a person says something bad about a business then its ok for the business to contact the person and start cussing at them, but its ok cuz they are just another car guy/girl?
I know its off point, but if your going to be professional at something then be professional about everything and not just porting.
Even if he were to get a free blower I still would not feel comfortable about doing business with someone that cussed me out. Id probably take my money elsewhere next time.
Edit: Also what does liking cars have anything to do with the way that a person handles things without being vulgar?
I know its off point, but if your going to be professional at something then be professional about everything and not just porting.
Even if he were to get a free blower I still would not feel comfortable about doing business with someone that cussed me out. Id probably take my money elsewhere next time.
Edit: Also what does liking cars have anything to do with the way that a person handles things without being vulgar?
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ok wait...
so im still trippin on....
he says many times he has this recorded convo on tape....
they give him permission to post it...
and suddenly he didnt want to?
WTF
then purpously gets his self banned, so he can then used being banned as an excuse to not be able to post the convos....when he as already given plenty of chances before the ban..
..another WTF..
so im still trippin on....
he says many times he has this recorded convo on tape....
they give him permission to post it...
and suddenly he didnt want to?
WTF
then purpously gets his self banned, so he can then used being banned as an excuse to not be able to post the convos....when he as already given plenty of chances before the ban..
..another WTF..
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