Mach 1 vs. LT1 Z28

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[S8ER01Z]

Not arguing that, as it was what I was saying earlier. I know the Mach is faster, I am just saying through the 1/8th it will be alot closer then many people realize! :beer:

Tyler

It's even closer in the 330...maybe you should narrow it down further!!!

 

[amxguy1970]

It's even closer in the 330...maybe you should narrow it down further!!!

:fart:

 

[amxguy1970]

I can agree with that comment.....about it being closer than most realize. THe same goes for the 03 cobra and Mach from a dig. Not saying the mach will win, but closer than most think.

I won't reply to the above (not that I didn't read it), just I think it would be a moot point. I will admit, my mindset goes straight to 1320 not the 1/8th. That was my error. Best case scenarios between the two the mach will be ahead at the marker by roughly 2 lengths and will only get uglier if it went a full 1320.

Shall we leave it at that? :shrug:

I will agree! I usually go that route too but I was just using the 1/8 as a point, I hate racing the 1/8th as my car doesn't really shine until it gets moving (under tired).

No doubt it will get uglier for the LT after the 1/8th, it can only use its torque for so long before it starts running out of breath up top. Your point of the Mach versus the 03 Cobra is like the same with the ZR1 and Z06, both are fairly close down low; but the faster you go the worse it gets for the weaker car.

:beer:

Tyler

 

[Stopsign32v]

That point is just a last ditch effort to make something sound better than it really is.

Thats the same as saying at first a one legged man would keep up with an olympic runner but the more they run the worse it would get......Well no shit. One is slower than the other!

 

[S8ER01Z]

That point is just a last ditch effort to make something sound better than it really is.

Thats the same as saying at first a one legged man would keep up with an olympic runner but the more they run the worse it would get......Well no shit. One is slower than the other!

x2

 

[ponygt65]

That point is just a last ditch effort to make something sound better than it really is.

Thats the same as saying at first a one legged man would keep up with an olympic runner but the more they run the worse it would get......Well no shit. One is slower than the other!

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1: That was one FUNNY ASS Analogy K. ROFLMAO.

HI-jack...when you taken M.A.'s Mach next?...oh, and when is the 95 getting tuned?...Saturday? I forget. :bash:

 

[Stopsign32v]

HI-jack...when you taken M.A.'s Mach next?...oh, and when is the 95 getting tuned?...Saturday? I forget. :bash:

The track is closed til May 1st. And I started up the 95 today and tried to set the timing but it wouldn't run right anywhere but at 20 degrees timing. :dw: Oh and my heater line is leaking alittle where it goes into the lower intake and I don't think the thermostat opened so the car tried to run alittle hot. Also the fan didn't kick on at all. So I still got alittle stuff to figure out. One things for sure though, even at 1,000rpms the car sits there and f'ing TALKS to you. She got a big bump stick in her.

 

[Ls1z28-00]

Uh what?. THe more you post, the more I wonder how much you know. I mean, I understand you have a kickass LS and cobra....but are you seriously trying to tell me that an LS M6 'MAY ONLY' run a 105 TS?:??::shrug::nonono:

Haha your questioning my intelligence:lol1: . I had a ls1 car that yanked the tires 1 foot of the ground and was capable of mid 6s in the 1/8th, i fully know what the ls1 is capable of and there is no doubt it is far superior to the LT1. A average STOCK LS1 car will run low 13s@105-106 anything better than that and its due some killer weather/driving etc... Its nice that you guys think so highly of the LS1 but get real....It is superior to LT1s and any N/A 4v cobra/mach1 period . My buddy of course is not the best driver in the world id say hes a fair/average driver. I have more mods than he does and im much lighter, and i still got beat. i dont know whats so hard to believe here. My point is the LT1 isnt a turd and can hang with faster cars for a fraction of the price....never said it was superior or equal. And my LT1 went 8.93@80 with a 2.1 60 spinning badly.

 

[Stopsign32v]

A average STOCK LS1 car will run low 13s@105-106 anything better than that and its due some killer weather/driving etc... Its nice that you guys think so highly of the LS1 but get real....It is superior to LT1s and any N/A 4v cobra/mach1 period .

How do you figure? My 99 Cobra BONE STOCK ran 13.5 in the 1/4th and 13.1 with 4.10 gears. I ran a Mach 1 with paper filter to a 13.2 the first time ever driving it on the track or any Mach 1 for that matter. So again, how is the LS1 superior in the 1/4th?

 

[S8ER01Z]

How do you figure? My 99 Cobra BONE STOCK ran 13.5 in the 1/4th and 13.1 with 4.10 gears. I ran a Mach 1 with paper filter to a 13.2 the first time ever driving it on the track or any Mach 1 for that matter. So again, how is the LS1 superior in the 1/4th?

It just is...why can't you understand.. epper:

 

[amxguy1970]

How do you figure? My 99 Cobra BONE STOCK ran 13.5 in the 1/4th and 13.1 with 4.10 gears. I ran a Mach 1 with paper filter to a 13.2 the first time ever driving it on the track or any Mach 1 for that matter. So again, how is the LS1 superior in the 1/4th?

Dang, your just a regular Evan Smith there huh? What did that Mach Trap?

It just is like stated above, it just is....

Tyler

 

[BlueSnake01]

Haha your questioning my intelligence:lol1: . I had a ls1 car that yanked the tires 1 foot of the ground and was capable of mid 6s in the 1/8th, i fully know what the ls1 is capable of and there is no doubt it is far superior to the LT1. A average STOCK LS1 car will run low 13s@105-106 anything better than that and its due some killer weather/driving etc... Its nice that you guys think so highly of the LS1 but get real....It is superior to LT1s and any N/A 4v cobra/mach1 period . My buddy of course is not the best driver in the world id say hes a fair/average driver. I have more mods than he does and im much lighter, and i still got beat. i dont know whats so hard to believe here. My point is the LT1 isnt a turd and can hang with faster cars for a fraction of the price....never said it was superior or equal. And my LT1 went 8.93@80 with a 2.1 60 spinning badly.

LS1's do have the edge, but it all depends on driver stock for stock, one error can cause the whole race. They are superior for modding and all of the above since they still have a lot left to do, 32Valves need boost for power. Then again, you can make a fast car without a lot of mods or power. There was a Mach1 with full exhaust, 4.10 gears, slicks (yea i know), tune, & intake and he was in the mid 12's, dont remember the trap speed thought (I think it was around 107). But about the LT1 getting a 2.1 60' ft spinning badly :bs: (if it was stock, even then....). Spinning badly would most likely get you in the 2.3.

 

[S8ER01Z]

LS1's do have the edge, but it all depends on driver stock for stock, one error can cause the whole race. They are superior for modding and all of the above since they still have a lot left to do, 32Valves need boost for power. Then again, you can make a fast car without a lot of mods or power. There was a Mach1 with full exhaust, 4.10 gears, slicks (yea i know), tune, & intake and he was in the mid 12's, dont remember the trap speed thought (I think it was around 107). But about the LT1 getting a 2.1 60' ft spinning badly :bs: (if it was stock, even then....). Spinning badly would most likely get you in the 2.3.

x11 billion...

FWIW a 13.2 in a bone stock Mach 1 doesn't make Stopsign Evan Smith.. he is not even close to the first person to run a stock Mach 1 to a 13.2 ~ 13.3 bone stock. I consider Mach 1s a threat in stock form and it doesn't require Evan behind the wheel to be true.

 

[ponygt65]

Haha your questioning my intelligence:lol1: . I had a ls1 car that yanked the tires 1 foot of the ground and was capable of mid 6s in the 1/8th, i fully know what the ls1 is capable of and there is no doubt it is far superior to the LT1. A average STOCK LS1 car will run low 13s@105-106 anything better than that and its due some killer weather/driving etc... Its nice that you guys think so highly of the LS1 but get real....It is superior to LT1s and any N/A 4v cobra/mach1 period . My buddy of course is not the best driver in the world id say hes a fair/average driver. I have more mods than he does and im much lighter, and i still got beat. i dont know whats so hard to believe here. My point is the LT1 isnt a turd and can hang with faster cars for a fraction of the price....never said it was superior or equal. And my LT1 went 8.93@80 with a 2.1 60 spinning badly.

Uh.....Aside from the the TS, where did I question anything you stated about Ls's? my reference to your knowledge was targeted at your comments of machs. My fault for not clarifying that. The only 105-106 TS's I've seen for an LS, were Auto's. It's not uncommon AT ALL for M6's to trap 107-109. As Stopsign said above, how is one car 'superior' to another if their ET avgs are lot to mid 13s (manuals)?

And...I don't know WTF lifting your front tires has anythign to do with what these 'stock' cars can do. It definitely has nothing to do with Machs.

It just is...why can't you understand.. epper:

SHADDUP smartass. :lol::beer:

Dang, your just a regular Evan Smith there huh? What did that Mach Trap?

It just is like stated above, it just is....

Tyler

low-mid 13s for an M5 mach is the avg. so, 13.2 is right in there with the norm. TS is just a sign of power. :shrug:

LS1's do have the edge, but it all depends on driver stock for stock, one error can cause the whole race. They are superior for modding and all of the above since they still have a lot left to do, 32Valves need boost for power. Then again, you can make a fast car without a lot of mods or power. There was a Mach1 with full exhaust, 4.10 gears, slicks (yea i know), tune, & intake and he was in the mid 12's, dont remember the trap speed thought (I think it was around 107). But about the LT1 getting a 2.1 60' ft spinning badly :bs: (if it was stock, even then....). Spinning badly would most likely get you in the 2.3.

actually...with those mods, low 12s is very possible, given it's a true full exhaust and a good tune. LOL

Both LS and Machs have similar gains per mod. It's once you crack open the valve cover that the mach loses. Can't beat a good HCI in a pushrod when trying to do that with a 4.6 modular.

 

[Stopsign32v]

Dang, your just a regular Evan Smith there huh? What did that Mach Trap?

It just is like stated above, it just is....

Tyler

The Mach trapped 105 or 106 but at the time I shifted every gear at 6,000rpms for some reason. :kaboom:

The Cobra trapped 103 if I remember correctly. That was back in 2001.

 

[Stopsign32v]

x11 billion...

FWIW a 13.2 in a bone stock Mach 1 doesn't make Stopsign Evan Smith..

Damn...

 

[joeason1010]

I want either one of these LSSLOWS anytime as soon as I get done with this C6ZOSLOW in a couple days I will trash another GM and any GTO or SS is a joke to me unless it is built pretty well and even then I only have to do half to my cobra to beat your fully built SS or Vette

 

[joeason1010]

SS guys stop ****in BSing man your ****in SS run's a 13.8 no faster STOCK it runs door to door with a 4600lb Lightning I own a Lightning and I have trashed many SS's from a dig or a roll. It's pretty bad when chevy has to compare a SS with the fastest Ford Truck HAHA cause I know they won't come close to a 03 04 Cobra

 

[joeason1010]

Further more I will question a LSLOW any day of the week it's a ****in Ford motor put together Backwards look at it guys