Is this the last hurrah?

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With all the high horsepower cars that have been rolling out of the manufacturers over that last few years, anyone ever get depressed when you think this may be the last hurrah? Dont get me wrong I love the HP wars etc, but how much longer will it last before our loud obnoxious engines and exhaust are replaced with the sound of silence.
Electric/hybrid vehicles are rapidly becoming the norm. I'm wondering how much longer we will have our new models of gas powered V8s.
 

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With all the high horsepower cars that have been rolling out of the manufacturers over that last few years, anyone ever get depressed when you think this may be the last hurrah? Dont get me wrong I love the HP wars etc, but how much longer will it last before our loud obnoxious engines and exhaust are replaced with the sound of silence.
Electric/hybrid vehicles are rapidly becoming the norm. I'm wondering how much longer we will have our new models of gas powered V8s.
We said the same thing in 1973. :)
 

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With all the high horsepower cars that have been rolling out of the manufacturers over that last few years, anyone ever get depressed when you think this may be the last hurrah? Dont get me wrong I love the HP wars etc, but how much longer will it last before our loud obnoxious engines and exhaust are replaced with the sound of silence.
Electric/hybrid vehicles are rapidly becoming the norm. I'm wondering how much longer we will have our new models of gas powered V8s.
That is highly dependant on the outcome of future elections.
 

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I don't think it will have anything to do with electric or hybrid technology. I think it will be due to car companies shifting from making cars to making more trucks and SUV's. This is already starting. The market has spoken. As a result, the cost of manufacturing these "low production" high horsepower cars will cause the purchase price to continually climb until it is no longer viable.
 

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Well Ford clarified the other day their hybrid Mustang wont have "V8-like" horsepower but will have V8 horsepower. So as of right now I think we will get our V8s still but manufacturers will be working towards efficiency in power.
 

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I don't think it will have anything to do with electric or hybrid technology. I think it will be due to car companies shifting from making cars to making more trucks and SUV's. This is already starting. The market has spoken. As a result, the cost of manufacturing these "low production" high horsepower cars will cause the purchase price to continually climb until it is no longer viable.

This right here. My 2003 SVT Cobra fully loaded was $34K new in 02. Now the car levels are hitting $100K for the high end and $40K for mid tier. By 2025 I doubt the GT500 will be under $100K by then most likely Twin Turbo 5.2L. The GT with be close to $50K.
 

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We said the same thing in 1973. :)

We also said the same thing in 2013 with the Trinity.

I don't know where the market goes though. I was really hoping we would see the size and weight of vehicles to decrease in order to meet CAFE standards--this would also mean less HP to get the same performance. The shift towards big trucks and SUVs was not something I saw coming.
 

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We also said the same thing in 2013 with the Trinity.

I don't know where the market goes though. I was really hoping we would see the size and weight of vehicles to decrease in order to meet CAFE standards--this would also mean less HP to get the same performance. The shift towards big trucks and SUVs was not something I saw coming.

With all the electronics and safety features these cars have now a days I don't see weight going down until they find some polymer that is super light, super strong, and super cheap to build.
 
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With all the electronics and safety features these cars have now a days I don't see weight going down until they find some polymer that is super light, super strong, and super cheap to build.

Need Graphene processing and production to speed up!
 

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Electric/hybrid vehicles are rapidly becoming the norm. I'm wondering how much longer we will have our new models of gas powered V8s.

But are they? The only hybrid to get any traction is the Prius and that is because it is a practical and cheap car that just happens to be a hybrid. The Bolt and Volt and Leaf were total flops. The Tesla gets a lot of attention but keep in mind it is a niche luxury product that just happens to be electric. All of the new EVs that are coming out are the same story.

MPG is very low on the average consumers priority list, especially when gas is $2. Range anxiety is still a thing and the typical car buyer does not even know what their mileage is.

All that said, I say bring it on. The more options the better and let the best platform win. I think it would be cool to do a restomod with Tesla guts.
 

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Personally and based on what I hear in the industry through the collision repair end of it, I don’t think we’re going to see wide spread electric cars. Maybe some electric assistance but I’d wager manufacturers find alternatives to lighten the vehicles and gain better economy results.
 

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I "want" to say yes this is the last hurrah...
but they said it in 1973 when the oil crisis hit,
alot said it in late 90's when run of the mill Cobras & SS's were pumping 300+ hp,
alot said it in 2003 when the readily-available Terminator was making an honest 400 hp,
alot said it in 2013 when the GT500 came out with 660 factory hp,
alot said it a couple years ago when the Hellcats broke 700 factory hp,
they'll still be breaking hp barriers for years and years to come.

I think the GT500 will come in ALOT closer to 800 than 700. The number to hit for the next Mustang GT will be 500 hp. The next update to a ZR1 will be over 800 I have no doubt. It'll just keep going and going.
 

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I "want" to say yes this is the last hurrah...
but they said it in 1973 when the oil crisis hit,
alot said it in late 90's when run of the mill Cobras & SS's were pumping 300+ hp,
alot said it in 2003 when the readily-available Terminator was making an honest 400 hp,
alot said it in 2013 when the GT500 came out with 660 factory hp,
alot said it a couple years ago when the Hellcats broke 700 factory hp,
they'll still be breaking hp barriers for years and years to come.

I think the GT500 will come in ALOT closer to 800 than 700. The number to hit for the next Mustang GT will be 500 hp. The next update to a ZR1 will be over 800 I have no doubt. It'll just keep going and going.

True, but there are only so many avenues you can take to make power. At the end of the day it is either mechanical efficiency (which has an upper limit with internal combustion engines) and oxygen/fuel. Either you make the existing design more efficient for a few percentage points, or you add oxygen and fuel in the form of boost, rpm or both. I feel like the last 5 years have been a brute-force arms race. It's going to be asymptotic. You can only run so much boost/compression with pump gas. You can only cater to certain areas for E85 access. You can only spin a motor so much. You can only have so much control over fuel where you lose resolution at lower throttle levels and sacrifice street manners. There are limitations, and I think we're approaching it for ICE/93.
 

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