Nice car but it would have been nice if Ford would have come out of the gate making a huge statement with the 50th but that does not seem to be the case. Ford sure has been tight lipped releasing information on the s550 and when they do its been sorta meh for me.
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What has hurt this car the most is expectations. Between Ford teaseing us with "lighter" and other rumors claiming "nearly 500hp" then claiming the track pac will mop up the Boss.... I think they did it to themselves. We all were expecting a lot..... the car is an improvement over all.... no question.... but expectations are clouding that!
I agree with you mainly. But, I am not certain that "Ford" ever said it would be lighter or "mop up" the Boss.
As more real numbers arrive, it may be that on a variety of tracks the lighter versions of the new GT PP will actually have an advantage over the Boss, though.
Now the fact that it is heavier and still has not lost any significant performance edge, while becoming much, much more easy to live with on actual roads is IMO a huge win. I love my rough and raw 2008 GT500. But daily driving an IRS car (SHO) with better MPG and hugely more street friendly manners, makes me think an IRS Mustang is precisely the right move on Fords part. And they seen to have done it without sacrificing performance!
Now if they would just make an AWD GT500, I could get by with only one car! 11 second 1/4 mile in the freaking snow!
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Going to hold off with my thoughts on the 15 till we get to play with them a bit. We have 4 cars on the way with parts ready to be installed for testing. Look for our reviews soon.
For the most part, this is how I feel.
This whole EB stuff, it seems like I went through the same thing back in the 1980's with the Mustang SVO. It brings back bad memories. I'm just a V8 type of guy..............old guy with old school thoughts.
By now I've read all of the reviews and I now appreciate my $28,000 entry level auto GT more and more.
I'm totally shocked at the $45,000 price for a loaded out GT. For a few thousand more, I would rather be in a C7 entry level Vette or maybe even a Challenger SRT for the same $45,000. I'm not brand loyal, but when looking for a new performance model car, I want the best bang for the buck. With the 2015 model, the Mustang GT is no longer the best bang for the buck. Like boxing, it's moved from the light weight category to the middle weight category.
I saw the 2015 Mustang GT in deep impact blue at the Houston car show, and as reported on another site, I wasn't impressed at all. This being said, two things.......the first is that my GT is also DIB so I could compare color to color, the second is that we couldn't check out the interior. So I can say I wasn't impressed by the new sheet metal, nor can I comment on the new interior.
As far as the car magazines go, for the most part they are pretty much in line with real world quarter mile times. My bone stock Pontiac G8 GXP ran a 12.9, which is what the car magazines were getting. My 2013 Mustang GT ran a 12.70, which is what the car magazines were getting. However my 2009 Vette auto ran a bone stock time of 12.15, which was way off the 12.6 times the magazines were getting, however I was running at -1500 DA, which helped out a lot. So for the most part, I use the car magazine times as a base line, and try to better it.
Like any car guy, I'm really excited to actually take a test drive and see the interior of the new GT.
However I would like to ask you guys this, after reading the reviews, do you really feel as excited about the 2015 as you think you should be? I know I don't. Maybe after taking a test drive I will, however after reading the reviews, my expectations aren't as great as they once were.
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It's better than the previous one, so there is no reason to not be happy about it.
"With the 2015 model, the Mustang GT is no longer the best bang for the buck."
Depends on how much money you are willing to spend. I have a hard time finding a "Better band for my buck" when trying to stay between 30k-38k. If you know of one, please share, you might be right and there is something better out there.
"With the 2015 model, the Mustang GT is no longer the best bang for the buck."
Depends on how much money you are willing to spend. I have a hard time finding a "Better band for my buck" when trying to stay between 30k-38k. If you know of one, please share, you might be right and there is something better out there.
Yes I am excited as ever. Another review:
The First Pony Car, In First Place Once Again
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/09/19/2015-ford-mustang-gt-first-drive-review-video/
The First Pony Car, In First Place Once Again
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/09/19/2015-ford-mustang-gt-first-drive-review-video/
It may indeed be the best "bang for the buck" in 2015. Time will tell. Unfortunately, it is not enough "bang for MY buck", which in the end, is what each of us has to decide.
I'm not excited about it, and that's sad. Perhaps that will change in due course....I'm just not optimistic.
I'm not excited about it, and that's sad. Perhaps that will change in due course....I'm just not optimistic.
Great review. Now we just need some track times against other like cars
. I am excited to get my '15 GT PP. Hope to have my VIN next week.
Looking at the vbox datasheet from the roadandtrack review, http://www.roadandtrack.com/cm/roadandtrack/images/Of/Vbox.jpg, I'm not impressed.
What matters to me is 60-130 since that is indicative of the power the car is making and how it might compare to another car in a typical street encounter or a 1/2 mile event.
0-130 - 18.5 sec
0-60 - 4.6 sec
60 - 130 13.9 sec with average weather conditions.
I've done 11.9 with my '12 with a tune and exhaust and 13.5 when stock in worse humidity and higher temps.
Perhaps the '16 will get a real power bump, sure hasn't convinced me to trade my '12 in for this though.
What matters to me is 60-130 since that is indicative of the power the car is making and how it might compare to another car in a typical street encounter or a 1/2 mile event.
0-130 - 18.5 sec
0-60 - 4.6 sec
60 - 130 13.9 sec with average weather conditions.
I've done 11.9 with my '12 with a tune and exhaust and 13.5 when stock in worse humidity and higher temps.
Perhaps the '16 will get a real power bump, sure hasn't convinced me to trade my '12 in for this though.
Great review. Now we just need some track times against other like cars
And please better drivers, the 2.2 60ft is soon to be improved on.
You think that your car being faster is indicative of the driver perhaps? If you honestly think that 60-130 indicates power of the car than well I guess that's your way if thinking.
Power can be in different places in the band. It depends on the,engine and engine setup (tuning). Oh ya and gearing. So why have a dyno. We'll just find a mile stretch to test cars power output
I'm an average driver so it isn't like I was just banging gears like crazy and they weren't, plus making two shifts from 60-130 takes the driver out of the equation more than the drag strip.
For 1/2 mile racing and a street encounter looking at 60-130 means more than a 0-60 or 1/4 mile in a staged environment.
:shrug:
I'm also more excited than ever.
Great read and if the last line doesn't mean anything to you, then I don't know what to say.
I think everyone is very clear that the new car is not light enough for you. You've made your point. Repeatedly.
I doubt Ford was trying to build a lightweight car (and all that entails in either cost or lack of amenities) that appeals to only a certain segment of potential buyers (i.e. drag racers). They did good keeping the performance up, while adding the IRS it needs to remain a viable vehicle to sell overseas and to those folks who are willing to trade composed street manners for a tenth or two. Expecting anything else seems unrealistic to me.
If Ford chose wisely they will sell a lot of Mustangs. And that is the point!
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People who are disappointed have either 1) unreal expectations or 2) are jaded by the unreal pics and vids posted on this site on the regular.
Most people don't frequent a forum such as this so they are ignorant to the newest and fastest cars on the street. This forum is especially active when it comes to record breaking performance of any kind. I'll tell you straight up, if you post a title that says "Crazy 9sec turbo Cobra" I'll pass over it because it's nothing new to me.
You have to dig deep in the new car to find its value. I see it simply as this: the 13-14 GTs were badass and worth buying, but the 15 has all that plus a built motor and well tuned IRS. Therefore the 2015 is greater than the 13-14 in every conceivable way. It's difficult to comprehend, I know.
Most people don't frequent a forum such as this so they are ignorant to the newest and fastest cars on the street. This forum is especially active when it comes to record breaking performance of any kind. I'll tell you straight up, if you post a title that says "Crazy 9sec turbo Cobra" I'll pass over it because it's nothing new to me.
You have to dig deep in the new car to find its value. I see it simply as this: the 13-14 GTs were badass and worth buying, but the 15 has all that plus a built motor and well tuned IRS. Therefore the 2015 is greater than the 13-14 in every conceivable way. It's difficult to comprehend, I know.
Thank you for clearing that up for me. As dumb as I am, I would have never figured it out on my own.
Repeatedly.
Seeing 99% of us have ever driven one or even sat in one, we have to read articles written by others. Therefore since 99% of us are basing our beliefs on the words of others, in this context, it really is difficult to comprehend.
I chuckle at the way you write this, as a fact, yet your credibility is severely lacking. When you buy one and drive it for a couple of months, you will have the credibility to make this statement. Have you owned a 2013 -2014 Mustang GT? Till then, it's just an opinion, like everybody else has.
By the way, the 2015 has an extra 15 horsepower. Why isn't it showing up in the quarter mile results?
At the end of the day, I'm excited about checking out the new 2015 Mustang GT, but I don't have blinders on. I will judge the car as it is, but not as a complete and total fanboy.
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