ebay alternator- 160 AMP

[rattle_snake]

I think most need to realize that you may just want to expect a failure and have an extra one sitting in your garage waiting for it's turn to die!

That what I did expecting the same results from the last 2 that died from overheating.

I received a new replacement unit from Eagle in about a week including shipping both ways, so at least their service is good. It had a 1 year warranty.

I disassembled my dead factory unit and tested the diodes. They were electrically intact but one had the ceramic package baked to a crisp and falling off. It could have been fixed with just a regulator but the diodes/rectifier was not far behind. I had it rebuilt by a reputable local shop for $100. Call it a spare.

 

[gnatsumarboc03]

Sorry but your statement is not true at all. I'm at almost 96k and I have gotten over 40k on (2) Ford OEM alternators. DD mine and it sees all seasons and even gets flogged hard in the summer heat. There are so many people like me out there too, that actually put alternators to the test, subjecting them to real world conditions. Not just a couple of passes on the weekend for under 12-13sec...

Any alternator, that is going to be considered as a viable option for our cars, should be able to at least hit 40k or more.

How is my statement not true at all? Every single alternator (all 5 of them) didn't fail just cause I was crusing around town enjoying the weather. I street race and go to the track very frequently how is that not real world conditions? My statement has some truth in it otherwise I wouldn't have went through so many. My car is also daily driven to better add to this statement.

 

[01cobravortech]

How is my statement not true at all? Every single alternator (all 5 of them) didn't fail just cause I was crusing around town enjoying the weather. I street race and go to the track very frequently how is that not real world conditions? My statement has some truth in it otherwise I wouldn't have went through so many. My car is also daily driven to better add to this statement.

How can you say that those who have an oem alternator don't drive their car at all? You seem to be implying that those using an oem alternator, which is very hard to find at this point considering Ford only offers remanufactured ones now..., some how baby their cars or don't get those rpms above 2k.

So many Terminator owners have exceeded 40k out of an OEM alternator. I mean I'm talking about ancient history here. These are not some new facts bro. I'd question whether you legitimately had (5) OEM alternators as opposed to (5) Ford remanufactured ones. There is a difference in engineering and life.

I didn't even bother going with an OEM alternator after learning that in about '09 - '10 Ford started making only remanufactured ones...

Hence why I am personally running the Ford Racing Aluminators 130amp which fits our cars perfectly.

All the people who got the stock alternator, or got xxx amount of their alternator simply don't drive the car. Anybody can have the factory alternator if the rpm's never go over 2k rpm just saying....

Maybe the issues you've had on your car are related to your alternator choice and other electrical issues which you haven't narrowed down yet. Not trying to flame you here, just pointing out that its not true to suggest that the original OEM alternators were unreliable flakes.

 

[01cobravortech]

I have been running a Start N Charge in my car since March of 2010.

It quit after 14 months, Jamie said he was having issues with one of the parts he was using and he repaired it, even though it was past the 12 month warranty period, for free and shipped it back to me. I also, at Jamie's suggestion, put a Metco 3.2 pulley on it, even though I have the stock crank pulley

I have put almost 30K miles on it and have had no other issues at all. I drive the car like it was meant to be driven, it regularly sees red line shifts.

Jamie is a real stand-up guy and I like dealing with folks that back their products up. :thumbsup:

-Brian

Thanks for putting that up. 30k isn't bad but this just serves as further proof as to how difficult it is for anyone to make a reliable alternator that can see some serious miles.

Glad to hear that Start N Charge still honored the warranty. :beer:

 

[01cobravortech]

If he were talking about getting a Ford OEM alt (or reman), then I'd be recommending that instead. Sadly you can't get one anymore, so why bring it up? I hear what you're saying, but I even stated I'm not recommending this over anything else out there. He asked if he were to get either the 105 or the 160 from these guys, which one should he get. I gave my opinion from my personal experience of testing different brands of alternator manufacturers and said get the 160 if he were buying it from these guys. Furthermore, he asked me another question for which I gave another opinion. Take mine for what they are worth to you. You know how opinions go and I'm no short of them just like you or anyone else out there.

There is a major difference between the ORIGINAL Ford OEM alternator and a remanufactured one. The remanufactured one from Ford doesn't even belong in this conversation because it doesn't perform as the OEM used to do.

So some are mistakenly talking about the remanufactured one as if it was identical in performance and life, as to the OEM one that used to be available. The OEM alternator was pretty stout. I've gone through two already. And what has been offered by the aftermarket whether it be Ford remanufactured, PA Performance, Ebay 160amp, Start N Charge, BilletTech (fitment and belt issues and no longevity substantiation yet), etc. just haven't stood the test of time yet.

 

[caveeagle]

There is actually a local CL seller that has an 'original' cobra alternator that was a 'take off' from a very low mile race car build. He claims it only had 200 miles on it.

The price is very good, but it looks a bit rough in the pic.

Is it worth a gamble on an OEM thats been sitting around a few years?

I know its been mentioned a couple times, but why not fab up a heat shield , a cooling tube from the driver-side brake intake,..... or both?

I don't even have my old one out yet, so I guess I should hold off with the bright ideas until I have seen what the accessability looks like.

 

[DT_C03RA]

There is a major difference between the ORIGINAL Ford OEM alternator and a remanufactured one. The remanufactured one from Ford doesn't even belong in this conversation because it doesn't perform as the OEM used to do.

So some are mistakenly talking about the remanufactured one as if it was identical in performance and life, as to the OEM one that used to be available. The OEM alternator was pretty stout. I've gone through two already. And what has been offered by the aftermarket whether it be Ford remanufactured, PA Performance, Ebay 160amp, Start N Charge, BilletTech (fitment and belt issues and no longevity substantiation yet), etc. just haven't stood the test of time yet.

How can you say that those who have an oem alternator don't drive their car at all? You seem to be implying that those using an oem alternator, which is very hard to find at this point considering Ford only offers remanufactured ones now..., some how baby their cars or don't get those rpms above 2k.

So many Terminator owners have exceeded 40k out of an OEM alternator. I mean I'm talking about ancient history here. These are not some new facts bro. I'd question whether you legitimately had (5) OEM alternators as opposed to (5) Ford remanufactured ones. There is a difference in engineering and life.

I didn't even bother going with an OEM alternator after learning that in about '09 - '10 Ford started making only remanufactured ones...

Hence why I am personally running the Ford Racing Aluminators 130amp which fits our cars perfectly.





Maybe the issues you've had on your car are related to your alternator choice and other electrical issues which you haven't narrowed down yet. Not trying to flame you here, just pointing out that its not true to suggest that the original OEM alternators were unreliable flakes.

This is the first I've heard about these. I didn't know this was being made. Where did you get it, if you don't mind me asking (Ford Racing I suppose, but how much and do you have a link to a website that shows it)? I may have to look at this one next time.

Edit: Is this the part # for the one you're talking about?: Alternator kit M-8600-M50BALT

 

[DT_C03RA]

There is actually a local CL seller that has an 'original' cobra alternator that was a 'take off' from a very low mile race car build. He claims it only had 200 miles on it.

The price is very good, but it looks a bit rough in the pic.

Is it worth a gamble on an OEM thats been sitting around a few years?

I know its been mentioned a couple times, but why not fab up a heat shield , a cooling tube from the driver-side brake intake,..... or both?

I don't even have my old one out yet, so I guess I should hold off with the bright ideas until I have seen what the accessability looks like.

Hard to say. It could be, but I have a hard time believing what people say to me anymore, so it's probably a real gamble. It may only have 200 miles from the race car, but maybe it's got 60k on it from before it was on the race car.

If the price was right for me ($50 or so), then I'd probably get it. Worst thing that happens is you end up with a core.

 

[caveeagle]

If the price was right for me ($50 or so), then I'd probably get it. Worst thing that happens is you end up with a core.

Hit the nail on the head! He had it listed for $80 for a while, and is now down to $50. I got an email back from him a couple wks ago, and more recently, I have sent him 3 unanswered emails. The weird part, is that he keeps relisting it every 3-4 days. I was nown near the seller last weekend and would have gladly forked over the $50. He probably has my emails stacking up in his spam or junk folder.

Oh well. Mayne the seller is a SVTP member? Hes in Lombard, IL.

I really don't need the extra hassle, I am leaning toward ordering the ebay/Eagle 160 amp unit.

 

[gnatsumarboc03]

How can you say that those who have an oem alternator don't drive their car at all? You seem to be implying that those using an oem alternator, which is very hard to find at this point considering Ford only offers remanufactured ones now..., some how baby their cars or don't get those rpms above 2k.

So many Terminator owners have exceeded 40k out of an OEM alternator. I mean I'm talking about ancient history here. These are not some new facts bro. I'd question whether you legitimately had (5) OEM alternators as opposed to (5) Ford remanufactured ones. There is a difference in engineering and life.

I didn't even bother going with an OEM alternator after learning that in about '09 - '10 Ford started making only remanufactured ones...

Hence why I am personally running the Ford Racing Aluminators 130amp which fits our cars perfectly.





Maybe the issues you've had on your car are related to your alternator choice and other electrical issues which you haven't narrowed down yet. Not trying to flame you here, just pointing out that its not true to suggest that the original OEM alternators were unreliable flakes.

You win, I'm obviously the only cobra owner to go through a few alternators. Everything I mentioned its completely false as you have already pointed out, sorry for the confusion oke:

 

[01cobravortech]

This is the first I've heard about these. I didn't know this was being made. Where did you get it, if you don't mind me asking (Ford Racing I suppose, but how much and do you have a link to a website that shows it)? I may have to look at this one next time.

Edit: Is this the part # for the one you're talking about?: Alternator kit M-8600-M50BALT

I purchased mine from Summit Racing. It was a few bucks cheaper than AM. Also its important to note that the image of the alternator on these websites is not an actual representation of what the alternator looks like. I added a few images of mine out of the box.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fms-m-10300-sc46/overview/

http://fordracingparts123.com/engin...-10300-sc46/?gclid=COTh5suNj7cCFUJa4AodJSwAFg

Ford Racing Mustang Alternator - 130 Amp (03-04 Cobra) M-10300-SC46 - Free Shipping!

You win, I'm obviously the only cobra owner to go through a few alternators. Everything I mentioned its completely false as you have already pointed out, sorry for the confusion oke:

Nobody won here man. Its not about that. Was just clarifying what appeared to be some very broad generalizations about the experiences we've all had with alternators on our cars. And yes you are correct that many have had multiple alternator issues. Many seem to have an incredibly high failure rate with any alternator that is considered 'remanufactured.' Its such a frustrating problem.

Many have had alternators die after doing a lower pulley and not putting a larger alternator on there. Even Metco recommends a slightly larger alternator pulley on upper ONLY Eatons. Any way, nothing personal buddy. :beer:

 

[caveeagle]

Even Metco recommends a slightly larger alternator pulley on upper ONLY Eatons.

Why would an 'upper only' mod require you to change the alt pulley? Just curious.... The speed of the crank pulley is what dictates the alt RMP. Right?

 

[01cobravortech]

Why would an 'upper only' mod require you to change the alt pulley? Just curious.... The speed of the crank pulley is what dictates the alt RMP. Right?

That's correct. Or at least that's what we've stood by for years.

This is the response I received from them when asking about whether it was necessary to use a larger alternator pulley with a 2.76 upper and stock crank pulley or 2lb lower:

The original alternator pulley can be used with our +2 lb crank pulley kit. The change in alternator speed that results from the +2 lb crank pulley upgrade is not significant enough to require an alternator pulley change.

However, there are some Cobra owners who believe that the original alternator pulleys are too small, even when used with the original crank pulley. If you choose, we have custom 3.0” alternator pulleys available ($54.99) that should work well with the stock or +2 lb rings.

The 3.0” alternator pulleys will slow the alternator slightly but not enough to create a discharge condition at low engine speeds.

 

[RussZTT]

Cliff notes. So has it been said where the best place to get alternators from?


hmm, this looks good. Its a motorcraft too.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-Mustan...Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item1e79f4f6e2

 

[01cobravortech]

Cliff notes. So has it been said where the best place to get alternators from?


hmm, this looks good. Its a motorcraft too.
Ford Mustang Cobra New Alternator 97 98 99 2000 200 High Amp Generator | eBay

I don't know about it being a Motorcraft. Product description seems to indicate its a Bosch remanufactured.

 

[caveeagle]

Cliff notes. So has it been said where the best place to get alternators from?


hmm, this looks good. Its a motorcraft too.
Ford Mustang Cobra New Alternator 97 98 99 2000 200 High Amp Generator | eBay

It also does not appear to fit on an 03-04 cobra.

 

[DT_C03RA]

I purchased mine from Summit Racing. It was a few bucks cheaper than AM. Also its important to note that the image of the alternator on these websites is not an actual representation of what the alternator looks like. I added a few images of mine out of the box.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fms-m-10300-sc46/overview/

http://fordracingparts123.com/engin...-10300-sc46/?gclid=COTh5suNj7cCFUJa4AodJSwAFg

Ford Racing Mustang Alternator - 130 Amp (03-04 Cobra) M-10300-SC46 - Free Shipping!

Interesting. I found this on AM, and a couple of other places after I asked you, but I don't recall anyone ever mentioning these being made before, until now. When I did all my research last year, I never saw these anywhere. Would of been nice to know about back then. Thanks for sharing the info. I'll keep this one logged in my memory when I replace the ones I currently have.

 

[01cobravortech]

Interesting. I found this on AM, and a couple of other places after I asked you, but I don't recall anyone ever mentioning these being made before, until now. When I did all my research last year, I never saw these anywhere. Would of been nice to know about back then. Thanks for sharing the info. I'll keep this one logged in my memory when I replace the ones I currently have.

I agree with you. I don't remember seeing this alternator in last year's catalog, being identified as one that's compatible for an 03-04. From what I remember, there was always an alternator in that catalog for the Aluminator long block. Not sure if this is the same one but at least its decently price. We'll see in time if it can sustain miles. The warranty on this alternator is pretty lousy though. 3 months I believe.

 

[RussZTT]

It also does not appear to fit on an 03-04 cobra.

I'm running a 01 Cobra alt.

 

[01cobravortech]

I'm running a 01 Cobra alt.

Since when did 01 Cobra alternators fit in the 03-04 location?