I though he only had cams? And it the shop didn't feel like the car was "safe" to mod, they should have advised him of that. Just my opinion. Untill the OP chimes in, really cant speculate.
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Nope, you're wrong. The shop has responsibility and a legal obligation to do the job the properly. If the shop installs faulty parts supplied by the shop or does the installation incorrectly, that would be the responsibility of the shop.
If your argument is that the parts are good and the installation was done correctly and the failure is a result of too much HP for the components that were not modified, I'd agree with you.
It's already been proven that nothing was installed incorrectly by the shop.
Didn't see it mentioned but i think he ran a 250 shot on this car from time to time within that 4500 miles. Im no mechanic, but id say doing that doesn't exactly strengthen the factory rods. Ive had good experiences with the shop in question and they are stand up people. Although its unfortunate the motor locked up BLK2012 was fully aware that block was on borrowed time with level of power he was at.
I dont think there is set HP amount as every engine is going to have different tolerances given the modifications being done post factory stock.
You logic is slightly flawed. I totally agree with the entitlement statement but to say the car was pushing its limit is saying every Roush or Ford Racing Whipple car out there making 525-540 flywheel horsepower is at its limit. They come with a warranty and have the same power levels. Why dont they all bend a rod? There is a safe level and a unsafe level. With your logic you have taken your car beyond a safe level lowering it beyond what ford sent from the factory.
Time to get an 03-04 
Time to get an 03-04
Why would he want to have more problems? hahaha jk
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Lol i had too.. But Those rods are known to be the weak link on those cars. Time to get stronger and better.. That's all, we all go through that unfortunately.
Your right, IMO its the only downside going with GT and not the Boss.
Im leaning towards this. Its what happens with automotive repairs. Leave your vehicle with a repair facility and once its in there hands they accept responsibilty of the vehicle.
Either way its just shitty luck.
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If the head gasket wasn't weeping and the injector wasn't leaking.
The fact he was running a 250 shot from time to time would probably get the shop off the hook. N20 without the proper octane or tune will wipe out rods and more.
The fact he was running a 250 shot from time to time would probably get the shop off the hook. N20 without the proper octane or tune will wipe out rods and more.
F-ing double posts
"They drove the car out of the shop and in the shop onto the dyno. They switched out the stock injectors to 60lb ones and then they try to start and it never did and got locked up."
Except that they drove it up on the dyno, installed the injectors and it wouldnt start after that. Can't see it bending the rod for no reason other then just spinning the starter. It had to have a reason for bending the rod.
Nope. The car has been heavily modified for awhile now.
No, you're wrong. The car was there for E85 conversion and a tune. It had already been out on the streets running just fine with the cams beforehand.
The car hadn't been run on the 250 shot yet. The previous was a 150 pill.
My point is, that anytime you modify your car from stock, you have to expect at some point there is going to be problems. It just comes with the hobby. You can't expect to modify a car far from factory standards and still expect factory reliability.
We've seen over the years that all cars from the factory aren't built equally either. There is quarterly changes to parts bins at the factories, adjustsments made as failure reports come in etc. Therefor which is why you hear so many different stories about some cars handling more power than others.
It simply comes down to the luck of the draw when buying a car and what is going to happen with it when you start modding it. Just accept that anything can happen in this hobby. They are machines, they are going to fail.
That's just the hobby man. Build it, break it, build it better. If it breaks, replace it because it needed to be replaced anyways. lol.
Ok so the consensus between him and the shop is that the rod failed because of the increased strain from aftermarket parts right ??? So the car runs then its parked then he tried to start it back up and it's locked up ??? Or did it rotate at all ??
Lol where this thread went. When I get home I'll give all the details as I can but Steve (foofkiller) has pretty much covered everything. And my car had only a 150 shot and its only been hit 5 times and all five times were on the dyno.
Exactly !!!! , something is missing from this equation !!! Some bit of information ha been left out , you shut a car off and it never starts back up , and the cause is a bent rod ??!!!!?! I'm trying to wrap my head around this , so when the motor got shut off the rod bends ??? Isn't that the only way to say it ??
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