AED tune before/after track times

DWalker

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You tune your own car or your friend does it for you, I dont know, but this fact of knowing your way around SCT software to tune a vehicle makes you the subject matter expert with this platform?

Kdanner tunes his car, it's obvious because kdanner is playing puppet master and has his arm buried up wbt's ass telling him everything to say... :nonono:
 

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wbt....I'm sorry, but I agree with the majority here. You're not doing yourself any favors by your constant bashing (and lets be honest - that's what it is). I don't know if you got a bum deal from AED or what, but you need to let it go. Your (and by association, kdanner's) credibility is going down the drain. Sorry....kept my mouth (eerrrr keyboard) shut for a long time, but its getting rather ridiculas now.

AED....if I ever do get a Coyote Mustang, you will definitely be on my short list of tuners. Good job!

Oh ya....OP...sorry about your thread. Regardless of the actual raw numbers, nice GAIN from the tune!
 

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Lol!

You guys are seriously lost....I mean like missed the turn, stuck in a ditch.

Let me break this down....

1. Yes I am skeptical of anything related to AED. There is a history of misinformation/wrong information spewed forth there
2. Regarding these times. Most of you need to go back and read what I posted. I said MOST of the gains are in the 60'. yes there were gains outside of that however a auto with a converter, tune, O/R X running an 11.9 is weak regardless of who's tune is on the car. Those with auto experience know that a converter will pick up .3 with these cars. Take just that 1 item out of the picture here and you have a 12.2.
3. The 60' difference really looks abnormal especially with a converter, regardless of the tune. Because there is such a drastic difference in 60' time, which had a large impact on ET, how can one conclude that the gains were all in the tune when these times were produced on different days? In order to accurately compare, compare the tunes on the car with the same mods, on the same day. Many of you are so dense you just can't grasp this concept.

Speaking of cars without a converter running better times.....
Bolt-on 2011-2013 Mustang GT 5.0 Drag Racing ET List

In regards to kdanner, here is a run of his in 2,500' DA using the stock converter:
[youtube_browser]JmO_ygFoWO4[/youtube_browser]

My car (tune, tire, removed passenger seat):
[youtube_browser]QON4fQ6jm4E[/youtube_browser]

Finally, credibility....how many of you have run your cars at the track with an AED tune? Let's see those results. Oh wait.....you don't have an AED tune and don't run your cars at the track however feel some credence to question someone who has spent countless hours working on their car, making runs at the track, posting results of testing various parts and can spot the bullshit train from a mile off. There is much more to this than what is posted publicly that I can assure you of.

I am fine leaving it at that. If you want to discuss it further PM me.

Wbt, I am sorry. But you are voted off the island. Please pack your bags immediately.

-Thomas
 

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I think the answer lays in how you came off the line in the first run. Did you bog or did you spin more?

If you spun a bit off the line then the increase in MPH is even more impressive since spinning off the line artificially increases your trap speed meaning you may have run through the traps at 108 if you dead hooked.

WBT is trying to save us from ourselves. From his perspective AED is just rabid hype created from thin air. He thinks any unsubstantiated gains we feel are because of this hype. I am not a drag racer so speaking for myself I am very satisfied with my AED tune. The customer service is the best in the industry and that goes a long way.

I doubt WBT has children. I have three myself and when one of them finds themselves in a self destructive pattern I do my best to guide them out of it but there comes a point where I have to step aside and let them figure it out on their own.

WBT, if we are all really being hoodwinked here then you just need to step aside and leave us to it.

WBT, you don't understand us and we don't understand you. The minute you put drag brakes on your car it became a drag only car IMO. If you figure in the cost of your car and the cost of the mods you have yourself a high 10 second car. I can buy a ready to run 7 second x275 notch for less than you have into your car.

You have your reasons and we have ours.
 

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FWIW I hold no ill-will toward WBT or Kdanner.
IMO all the 'drama' falls into friendly competition/rivalry and at times these rivalries drive the industry further. If only I was closer to TX....I'd be out every chance I could to run heads up. Low11/high10 sec M6 vs A6. In short order (if I could convince Kdanner to market his auto tune) you'd all benefit with Chevy killing Coyotes.

Bob, it'd be an honor to tune a car of yours. My wife's been a fan of you since your Incon days.
 

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FWIW I hold no ill-will toward WBT or Kdanner.
IMO all the 'drama' falls into friendly competition/rivalry and at times these rivalries drive the industry further. If only I was closer to TX....I'd be out every chance I could to run heads up. Low11/high10 sec M6 vs A6. In short order (if I could convince Kdanner to market his auto tune) you'd all benefit with Chevy killing Coyotes.

Very gracious of you sir.
 

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Lol!

You guys are seriously lost....I mean like missed the turn, stuck in a ditch.

Finally, credibility....how many of you have run your cars at the track with an AED tune? Let's see those results. Oh wait.....you don't have an AED tune and don't run your cars at the track however feel some credence to question someone who has spent countless hours working on their car, making runs at the track, posting results of testing various parts and can spot the bullshit train from a mile off. There is much more to this than what is posted publicly that I can assure you of.

I am fine leaving it at that. If you want to discuss it further PM me.

Speaking of credibility, so far you have none with me becasue all I see is a one man crusade against a company that has nothing but a solid reputation. Since I'm so lost, why don't you help me out by spelling it out for me.

Why should I stay away from AED? Do you sell tunes and if so, why should I buy yours? I'm assuming the crusade you're on is because you sell tunes and this is hurting your business, but if you don't sell tunes, why is it you feel the need to keep sticking your nose in others business if it's not taking money from your pocket?

As mentioned, I don't have an AED tune, all I have to go off of are customer reviews and so far they are nothing but favorable. Who are you again and why is your credibility so much better? If you're so sure we all going to implode on AED tunes, sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. Then you can come in and say I told you so because up until this point, your efforts are pushing more customers to AED than away.
 

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Lol!

You guys are seriously lost....I mean like missed the turn, stuck in a ditch.

Let me break this down....

1. Yes I am skeptical of anything related to AED. There is a history of misinformation/wrong information spewed forth there
2. Regarding these times. Most of you need to go back and read what I posted. I said MOST of the gains are in the 60'. yes there were gains outside of that however a auto with a converter, tune, O/R X running an 11.9 is weak regardless of who's tune is on the car. Those with auto experience know that a converter will pick up .3 with these cars. Take just that 1 item out of the picture here and you have a 12.2.
3. The 60' difference really looks abnormal especially with a converter, regardless of the tune. Because there is such a drastic difference in 60' time, which had a large impact on ET, how can one conclude that the gains were all in the tune when these times were produced on different days? In order to accurately compare, compare the tunes on the car with the same mods, on the same day. Many of you are so dense you just can't grasp this concept.

Speaking of cars without a converter running better times.....
Bolt-on 2011-2013 Mustang GT 5.0 Drag Racing ET List

In regards to kdanner, here is a run of his in 2,500' DA using the stock converter:
[youtube_browser]JmO_ygFoWO4[/youtube_browser]

My car (tune, tire, removed passenger seat):
[youtube_browser]QON4fQ6jm4E[/youtube_browser]

Finally, credibility....how many of you have run your cars at the track with an AED tune? Let's see those results. Oh wait.....you don't have an AED tune and don't run your cars at the track however feel some credence to question someone who has spent countless hours working on their car, making runs at the track, posting results of testing various parts and can spot the bullshit train from a mile off. There is much more to this than what is posted publicly that I can assure you of.

I am fine leaving it at that. If you want to discuss it further PM me.
WBT,
Your link to the ET chart is revealing. Contrary to your view (or in your case, immutable law) that drag racing is the only valid measure of street car performance, and apropos to this thread, ECU tuning, what it demonstrates is quite the contrary. If you were to construct a scattergraph of all those results there would be no trend whatsoever, just a bunch of dots. You've got cars with Boss intakes, LT's, and CAI running a second slower than cars with stock headers, stock manifold and stock airbox. The obvious reason is that there are so many variables in effect it renders a chart like that near-useless as a means of comparing different setups. It is certainly interesting to see what different individuals have accomplished but it doesn't prove much beyond their own specific situations.
 

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Finally, credibility....how many of you have run your cars at the track with an AED tune? Let's see those results. Oh wait.....you don't have an AED tune and don't run your cars at the track however feel some credence to question someone who has spent countless hours working on their car, making runs at the track, posting results of testing various parts and can spot the bullshit train from a mile off. There is much more to this than what is posted publicly that I can assure you of.

I am fine leaving it at that. If you want to discuss it further PM me.

I run an AED tune, and you know it. 50 passes with that tune and I am arguably the quickest guy out there with a 3.31 M6 car and no power adder. Next time out, with a DS and struts I am going to see if I can crack the 11.5 barrier with the 3.31 gears before stepping up to 3.73s.

You know it is not fair to post a video of Kris making a pass. He has a Boss motor.

The truth is you have a vendetta against Shaun and all he does. Just let it go, man.

Mike
 
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I run an AED tune, and you know it. 50 passes with that tune and I am arguably the quickest guy out there with a 3.31 M6 car and no power adder. Next time out, with a DS and struts I am going to see if I can crack the 11.5 barrier with the 3.31 gears before stepping up to 3.73s.

You know it is not fair to post a video of Kris making a pass. He has a Boss motor.

The truth is you have a vendetta against Shaun and all he does. Just let it go, man.

Mike

Wrong again Mike......that pass and video were made before the Boss was even available to buy.
 

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You know it is not fair to post a video of Kris making a pass. He has a Boss motor.

That pass was from August 2010. Obviously I couldn't have possibly purchased a 2012 Boss engine at that point.

My car never had a Boss engine or even the manifold until October 2011. I had an 8" converter built and installed it with the engine thinking the Boss would want a looser converter than the 5C I installed back in September 2010. I was wrong, my car would never 60' like it did previously, or like wbt's does.
 

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It's funny how these 2 make there way into every single AED thread. Not just some or here and there, but every single one on several forums.
It's really pathitic looking at this point.:nonono:

If they are such good drivers, car builders and tuners maybe they should show us how it's done and start a business.

It's so easy a caveman can do it, right?

Put up some capital and show us all how it's done. Put us all out of business with your awesome skills.
Don't just tune 1 car to a fast time, tune hundreds, come on, it's easy.

I guess it's hard to have a big ego and read how happy so many people are with someone elses tune or parts.:rollseyes

What a joke.

Want to be impressed?
JPC ran 10.86 @ 123.89 MPH with a stock 5.0 and a JLT CAI last week in Ohio. Now that's some MPH!
200432_469663663064217_1066621442_n.jpg
 
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It's funny how these 2 make there way into every single AED thread. Not just some or here and there, but every single one on several forums.
It's really pathitic looking at this point.:nonono:

If they are such good drivers, car builders and tuners maybe they should show us how it's done and start a business.

It's so easy a caveman can do it, right?

Put up some capital and show us all how it's done. Put us all out of business with your awesome skills.
Don't just tune 1 car to a fast time, tune hundreds, come on, it's easy.

I guess it's hard to have a big ego and read how happy so many people are with someone elses tune or parts.:rollseyes

What a joke.

Want to be impressed?
JPC ran 10.86 @ 123.89 MPH with a stock 5.0 and a JLT CAI last week in Ohio. Now that's some MPH!
200432_469663663064217_1066621442_n.jpg
:rockon:
 

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